92: The World’s Healthiest Memory Foam Mattress

Narrarator 0:04

How would you like to improve your health and keep your family safe? You're listening to the Healthy Home Hacks podcast where we firmly believe in joining optimal health shouldn't be a luxury. Healthy Home authorities and husband and wife team Ron and Lisa will help you create a home environment that will level up your health. It's time to hear from the experts. Listen in on honest conversations and gain the best tips and advice. If you're ready to dive in and improve your well being and increase your energy, you're in the right place. All right, here are your hosts, baubiologists, authors, media darlings, vicarious vegans and avocado aficionados, Ron and Lisa Beres.

Ron Beres 0:49

If tossing, turning backaches, sinuses use insomnia, and night sweats are ruining your quality of life. You don't want to miss today's show. Today 60 million Americans suffer from allergies and 20 million of those are allergic to dust mites are the number one cause of allergies in your home.

Lisa Beres 1:10

Yes, and consider that 1/3 of our lives are spent within the confines of a bedroom where bedding and pillows harbor all kinds of dust. That ensue. Factor continues with studies from Ohio State University, revealing that a typical used mattress may have 100,000 to 10 million dust mites inside. They also note that 10% of the weight of a two year old pillow can be composed of dead mites and their droppings. To add fuel to the sleep fire about 50 to 70 million Americans have sleep or wakefulness disorders, which are associated with a growing number of health problems including heart disease, high blood pressure, stroke, diabetes, obesity and certain cancers.

Ron Beres 1:56

You're not friends Today's guest has been focused on analyzing sleep for over 20 years. of most importance to him is the impact of restorative sleep in terms of recovery from disease prevention from disease, longevity and performance. Jack Dell’Accio CEO and founder of ascensia has worked with some of the world's top athletes to optimize their recovery and performance. Through the years Jack has worked directly with health gurus, professional athletes and teams in the NBA, NFL, MLS, and over 25% of active NHL players on creating healthy sleep performance.

Lisa Beres 2:36

Essentia organic mattress has been recognized by several internationally renowned organizations, including the Mayo Clinic's Well, Living Lab, essentially has been named the number one foam mattress by Consumer Reports for seven consecutive years. Now Jack is proud to present the results from a double blind sleep study of professional athletes, which proves Essentia can extend the time spent in rem and deep sleep cycles by a whopping 20 to 60%.

Ron Beres 3:09

Welcome to the show. Jack, yes.

Jack Dell’Accio 3:13

Hey, guys. Thank you for having me on here. It's great to see you guys. It's been a while. So yeah.

Ron Beres 3:21

Last time on Susanne Summer show while back.

Yeah, that was right.

Lisa Beres 3:24

Shout out to Suzanne. Yes. May she rest in peace. Well, welcome, Jack, we are so thrilled to have you. I want to just jump right in because sleep disorders. I mean, so many people suffer, you probably have the actual stat of how many people it's just 50-70 million Americans, I guess, right are having a sleep issues. So can you tell us a little take us back to the beginning? How did you start with your company, I know someone in your family was diagnosed with cancer, kind of instigated this.

Jack Dell’Accio 3:53

You know, I've been an entrepreneur, I've been involved in a lot of product development in my previous life in different companies. And when my family member was going through his own struggles with cancer, it just triggered after seeing so many health practitioners and trying to see what was the best solution for him and going through different treatments, seeing how compromised your own health how hypersensitive, become to certain components in your environment. We started trying to maintain a clean environment for him. But as we were doing that my entrepreneurial side was kicking in and saying well, there's got to be a better way there's got to be better products. We're not finding the clean products that gave him the pressure redistribution, the pain relief from the physical trauma as well. So I started researching and trying to figure out how to get it done. I was trying to understand the production of latex, production of polyurethane foams was because the common product out there and try to understand what each one of them makes them tick and I you know, firm believer that every everything that's synthetic, has been made to mimic something natural. Yeah. So I kind of was trying to reverse right. So in fact, that was my whole thing, because the foundation to all of it is we needed to be in a clean sleep environment. So the early, you know, the start of Essentia was all about an organic space that didn't have any nesting grounds for dust mites, and bedbugs, and all the allergen triggers. But at the same time, what was lacking is doing that with pressure redistribution and proper support. And that didn't exist. And in fact, today, Essentia is the only one that makes us, but that was the beginning of the journey. And as the years went by, in the early years, I started to have better understanding of the power of sleep, not just for comfort and pressure relief, and a clean allergen free environment, which sounds like a lot already. Right? Yeah. But then beyond that was the impact on recovery, the impact on the thriving, and is by 2009, a patented new course, which really was able to push us in a different direction and offering thermal regulation and offering increased REM sleep deep sleep. And that's the path I was set on by 2009. And today continued to just outdo ourselves in bringing the most effective sleep environment possible. So it's been quite a ride.

Lisa Beres 6:27

In 2009 right?

Jack Dell’Accio 6:30

So 2006 it's when it started 2009 is when started touching on performance, leap performance.

Lisa Beres 6:35

Yeah, because that's what really singles you guys out from. There are now a lot of healthy organic mattresses out on the marketplace. However, you guys are really the only, I believe natural memory foam. Well, you were the first for sure. The most natural organic memory foam, maybe you still are.

Jack Dell’Accio 6:56

We were still the only ones right now you have some alternatives, where to put some fillers in, reduce some of the impact. And they'll have about 10% 15% of the 20% fillers. But 80% is still a chemical based product that's admitting. So what we've done is, is basically change your rules on how latex foam is made. So ours is organic latex that has a pressure redistributing property. So the slow response is from our latex.

Lisa Beres 7:24

Yeah, okay.

Jack Dell’Accio 7:26

The only one of its kind again, mimicked synthetically, so there are slow response, chemical latex foams. But we do it with organic latex foams.

Lisa Beres 7:35

Right? Yeah. This is just such an important topic. I was in a thread the other day on Facebook, someone asked for a mattress recommendation, of course, I recommend that you guys like hey, do you guys know this was not a healthy group. This was just like your mainstream group. I said, Hey, you know, there's an organic memory foam mattress, and they're all going sleep number this and sleep number this and I'm like, oh my god, like we're not just talking about, you know, and our listeners are pretty savvy at this point. But we're not just talking about the allergens and dust mites that we talked about. At the top, we're talking about chemicals like flame retardants, and fiberglass, and topical treatments and may have PFAS I mean, there are so many hidden pesticides and all the cotton if it's not organic, and all of that. So your bed is a host to so many biological and chemical contaminants. And then people wake up and wonder why they have sinus issues. And they feel like they've been hit by a train. And they don't feel like restorative like you're talking about.

Jack Dell’Accio 8:28

It's really just an interesting thing, how people don't realize the impacts of this. And further we've become a law, we've identified these as stimulants. So basically, the toxins are stimulating your central nervous system, that allergies trigger, you know, hyper activity for your defense mechanisms happening. So all these things, what we've identified is, they actually stop you from getting deep sleep stops you from getting extended time and REM sleep, and deep sleep cycles. And what that does is equivalent to a sleeping pill, ever take a narcotic to go to sleep, we've all had those extreme moments where we give it a try, you take a sleeping pill knocks you out. But when you wake up in the morning, you still feel just as horrible. You're groggy, you're not sleeping well, because you didn't actually have true restorative sleep, you were just kind of knocked out for the night. And that's what toxins do. That's what allergens do. That's what excessive heat does. So these are all stimulants that keep us out of the zone of having true impact.

Lisa Beres 9:27

One quick question, do you feel like when you are getting that really good restorative sleep, that REM sleep that you need less sleep? Or is it still do you still recommend the eight hours or whatever the guidelines are?

Jack Dell’Accio 9:39

Interestingly enough, and we saw this a whole lot specifically what our double blind study last year is, everyone's different. So the amount of time that you in total sleep that you need varies for every individual. The key is how much REM sleep and deep sleep that you can get. Well some people can log in three hours of REM and deep during five have hours others achieve it and six achieve it and seven others achieve it and eight, we all vary that way. And then the key is how much more can we get out of that REM and deep. And we've seen people go from three hours to four hours to as much as four hours now, and so much of it in six, seven years. So in a sense, if you're a person who's going to hit, if we can get you to three hours of REM and deep, and you achieve it in five and a half hours, and if I extend you to six, or six and a half hours, but I haven't moved the needle on REM and deep, it's actually doesn't make a difference. However, I add 15 minutes to it. Well, that's impactful as well, we were talking about REM and deep, every minute counts as much every individual is slightly different. But on average, most people will need seven, eight hours to achieve that. But I have some athletes that have done under five and a half, and logged in the proper amount of REM and deep. And that's equivalent for them.

Ron Beres 10:54

You are right my sister Jackie worked with a lot of professional athletes and on the lighter side of things. Which one of the athletes was the grumpiest that didn't sleep well?

Jack Dell’Accio 11:04

Once converted, I gotta tell you, they're all pretty happy.

Ron Beres 11:09

Now, okay, but I was also curious what the double blind studies. So how does that work are there like two different hotel rooms and you walk into one and it's Essentia. And the other one is the alternative.

Jack Dell’Accio 11:16

It's ultimately this is a pretty long process, a 10 week study, actually combined is 20 weeks, because we took the first 10 weeks as a baseline, the following 10 weeks, where everyone we swapped up their mattresses in their home. And what ended up happening is everyone thought they were getting Essentia and 50% of them got a Essentia 50% didn't. That really interesting when you do a double blind study is that everyone's in their top behavior. These are all pros. So all of their sleep routines were at their best, we were able to see that all of their onsets asleep were positive, no matter which mattress they had. Ah, so the light sleep cycles performed well on all mattresses. However, REM sleep and deep sleep. You can't consciously do that when you're sleeping. So that's when needles went off the charts. And that's where we had a 20 to 60% improvement was in REM sleep and deep sleep, something that you have zero control over all about your environment, all about the products that are stimulating you in your sleep environment.

Ron Beres 12:19

What a great test. Okay, so Jack got a question for you. Beyond latex organic foam is not a memory foam made from polyurethane, a petrochemical and a type of plastic, but rather GOLS certified organic latex foam, a slow response organic latex foam, can you explain essentially patented beyond latex organic foam and the health benefits.

Jack Dell’Accio 12:42

Yes. So in fact, are beyond latex is that we don't like to call it a memory foam because that gets confused because memory foams are made out of polyurethane chemical base. And in fact, what we've done is through essential oils and other organic additives, we've been able to change the response time of the different layers of foam in our aura mattress cores will have few different formulas all the way through to reach certain posture support, certain pressure redistribution. And all that is achieved through our organic formula, which we refer to as beyond latex. Because it's not doesn't just behave as common old fashioned regular latex, which is great. But just as as a spring as a substitute for spring hours, the layer substitutes a spring, but the top layers really replace the delicate comfort of a pillow top. Which is not good for you because one, the pillow top doesn't have enough density for support and durability hours, the only ones who have this specific concept. If you want comfort, the old mattress provider can get comfort as by reducing density to give you a little more fluff when you reduce density to get fluff. You're not getting and you're getting longevity. Yeah, our formula allows us to add elasticity, while maintaining very high density. We're about triple the density of an average mattress, so they're heavy. I feel they feel kind of soft, but soft would be the wrong word for it because they're so dense. It's just a high elasticity contours your body. And that's what beyond latex is what we're doing with latex foam, but no one else has ever done before. And we're getting the results with that.

Lisa Beres 14:28

Wow, that's amazing. I know everyone listening has had the whole like, Okay, you get the mattress, and maybe it has two sides and you get the hard side and you're like, Oh, that's too hard. I feel like Goldilocks right now. That's too firm. That's a little too firm. Right? It feels like the cardboard and then you flip it and you get the soft mattress and you're like oh my god, there's no support. Right? It just feels like you're thinking just like what you're talking about. And yeah, I've experienced that and it's frustrating and you get those bed sores. You know you're on this side. You're like now I'm having aches oh well let me flip and then you're tossing and turning all night. So this makes sense in your foam, I want to explain to listeners to anyone tuning in new latex, the latex that Jack's talking about, and that's in their product is derived from a rubber tree. It's natural latex, not synthetic latex, right. So a lot of people think they have a latex allergy, but they're really allergic to this synthetic latex. Is that correct?

Jack Dell’Accio 15:21

Actually, there is some are allergic to synthetic, others are allergic to the natural proteins in Latex. Okay. And that's one of the interesting things is that we eliminate all the proteins in the latex while we process it. Absolutely. And that's where we've also been tested by report on our product by Johns Hopkins, just because we want to make sure that it's safe for children, infants, and anyone with allergies. So in fact, we eliminate all the proteins in the processing. We obsess over every little detail.

Lisa Beres 15:56

Right? It's the milk, it's the heaviest, whatever it's called from the rubber tree, which is where the latex is extracted. I just want people to know that because then they hear latex and they think it's synthetic. And can you share with us some famous celebrities who sleep honestly, fill the dirt?

Jack Dell’Accio 16:14

Interesting. We have so many, so many of the top celebrities that unless I get there, okay. I don't feel comfortable. But it's an incredible.

Lisa Beres 16:25

Your publicist said your publicist said we could ask that question.

Jack Dell’Accio 16:31

You it's one of those interesting things that some of the top and best even the greatest Malibu homes today are getting a central map. Yeah, I'll tell you one of the interesting things that's been a big thing with celebrities with us is oversized mattresses. We're making mattresses that are 10 feet by 10 feet by two feet thick.

Ron Beres 16:51

So Shaquille O'Neal is your client.

Lisa Beres 16:54

Yeah, we just heard basketball players, basketball.

Jack Dell’Accio 16:58

We used to make the oversize for the NBA players. Oh, we've done a whole lot of them. But the NBA players typically get a mattress that would be maybe seven feet by eight feet. That would be a typical basketball players, oversized mattress, but we're making celebrity mattresses of 10 or 12. Feet. They are not 10 feet tall.

Lisa Beres 17:21

Right. Yeah, that's funny. So you'll do custom mattresses for anybody who wants to do that?

Jack Dell’Accio 17:26

Absolutely. Yeah, we make them frequently. Notice that that's been a growing trend with us. The request for oversized mattresses have been a weekly thing for us right now.

Lisa Beres 17:37

That's hilarious. I could see that. We sleep on a Cow King and I'm like, Yeah, once you go Cow King you can't go back. But yeah, could I have even bigger? I think so. I like to sprawl out.

Ron Beres 17:48

What are the dimensions of a Cow King versus this 10 by eight mattress?

Jack Dell’Accio 17:52

A cow King is 72 by 84. Okay, and we've made some 142 like by 96 so we.

Ron Beres 18:01

Wow.

Lisa Beres 18:04

Well, when you have these big homes like sometimes the master bedrooms are so massive like a bed a regular bed looks tiny in there. Anyway, it's almost like to scale you almost need it even aesthetically past designer in me pointing that out.

Jack Dell’Accio 18:16

Oh, for sure. And I believe that that's the movement, it's the rooms had to fill out the space. Interestingly enough, we patented design that allows us to assemble them on site.

Ron Beres 18:27

Oh, smart.

Jack Dell’Accio 18:28

So we're able to bring in, you know, a 5-600 pound mattress and assemble it on site. And that makes it a lot easier to follow through. So.

Lisa Beres 18:36

Wow, like a prefab bed. That is so cool. I'm curious. Do you have any contracts with hospitals or hotels?

Jack Dell’Accio 18:45

We do lots of hotels. Yes.

Lisa Beres 18:47

Lots of hotel. Oh

Jack Dell’Accio 18:49

Almost all MGM Resorts. Oh, okay. We'll have a wellness, at least one to three floors of wellness travel. And we're the only mattress featured and all of those. So we've got a whole lot of them in Vegas, but they're across the country as well. We've done hotels and Turtle Bay in Hawaii. Right now we're in the process of doing a complete property, the whole building will be converted to a Sencha in Dubai. So that's where the project that we're in now.

Lisa Beres 18:49

Literally Jack, I will book MGM next time we go to Vegas, that's for sure. Hello. Because I always say to Ron, I'm a very picky sleeper. Like everything has to be just right, right. It has to be dark, fed better, be comfortable. And I get so frustrated. I used to travel a lot. And when I traveled I would be so frustrated when the bed was terrible. And I'd say your hotel you have one job. Get a good sleep, right? That should be the number one most important thing but you look at these hotels and they put so much money in unimportant things right like the lobby, the aesthetics, all the bells and whistles. I mean, we had a we went to one hotel where I'm where they gave us a fish. Would you like a fish in your room? Would you like a goldfish? Right, right? It's a cool hotel would give you a fishbowl with a goldfish if you want it for the night. Yeah, we did. We said, Sure we'll take the fish. It didn't make a lot of sense. But while traveling alone, we wanted a little companion. I don't know. Exactly. And that's great, but the bed needs to be comfortable. I mean, there's nothing more important than a hotel and I think sometimes hotels don't. They need to get back to basics with that.

Ron Beres 20:19

Absolutely. Well, Jack. We recently did a podcast on biohacking actually episode 87. How was Essentia standing apart as the mattress for the biohacking community?

Jack Dell’Accio 20:31

That's actually been something phenomenal for us right now. We've been embraced by the biohacking community. As a follow up of the father of biohacking, Dave Asprey uses our mattress and has..

Ron Beres 20:42

There's the celebrities who dare you have a different kindness, finally reveal the name Jack, thank you.

Jack Dell’Accio 20:49

But we've had a great relationship with him, guys like Ben Greenfield, that basically are always talking about performance, wellness, and trying to, you know, fight against aging and anti aging and longevity, and sleep as a huge component for longevity. So that's when it comes to you know, the beauty of really hacking sleep is you get to do it with your eyes shut. You know, you don't have to work at it. You're not getting on any exercise equipment, by really setting yourself in an essential environment, just optimized asleep. So we've been really well embraced by the biohacking community, but we get the results. That bottom line is, these are guys that hardware or rings. They're constantly tracking their sleep. And the feedback from them is that we've improved their sleep and is a growing community but in essence is a community that speaks about their results, and they've been sharing their results across whether it be social and different events and the words got around and we've been considered the top biohacking mattress to date right now.

Lisa Beres 21:54

I love it. Well, speaking of biohacking. Can you explain something that you guys use called activated quartz technology. And I know there's a lot of people listening ladies who are having night sweats, maybe they're in perimenopause or menopause. And that's a real issue for a lot of women. And what does that mean for the sleeper this activate a quartz.

Jack Dell’Accio 22:16

So that dates back we launched just a year ago, the actual development of this product has been a few years in the making. And the idea behind the quartz, it was originally for me to try to find a way to counter the effects of EMFs. Because a lot of my pro athletes are on the younger side and a lot of the sleep coaching, we try to have people really disconnect in their bedroom. That was the one thing I noticed that the players resistance the most. And yet these guys are young individuals, they're separated from their friends and families at an early age, the only way they keep communicating with everyone is through their devices, right? When they get to bed at night, they're communicating with their friends and family. So staying disconnected doesn't make sense at 25 years old. So I started to think about is there a way that I can counter the impacts of of EMFs through our mattresses and understanding the you know, the slow wave cycles that organic products have? And how do we counter the erratic behavior of EMFs and signals. So the idea of bringing in and I'm gonna lead to the cooling, but part but the idea of bringing in quartz was because we were able to quantify, through DarkField Microscopy, that EMFs cause erratic behavior to your blood cells, and that our Quartz was able to neutralize that and keep your blood cells behaving normally allowing for better oxygen flow through the bloodstream. That was the core reason that I was bringing introducing quarts into our latex formula. However, when we did this, we also realized the addition of this stone, this powdered stone, in our formula, almost behave as if you're sleeping on a flexible stone. What's the unique characteristic of a stone is it basically it eliminates heat, it doesn't hold on to heat. So we already had a thermal regulating latex that allowed your body heat to escape at a time, pre quartz, it was at a seven degree over an eight hour time lapse, which active, the continual process of cooling off is really important to hitting those key numbers in rem and deep sleep. And with the activated quartz. I went to nine degrees. So had a two degree shift just by having the quartz formula.

Lisa Beres 24:39

Wow, so is the double. It was a win win win win.

Jack Dell’Accio 24:42

It was a win win. And the huge win is actually how your blood cells behave when exposed to erratic EMF. So people using ascensia with the activated quartz have the opportunity to you know use their phones to stream their movies, while not being and negatively impacted by these erratic behavior of blood cells and download waves.

Ron Beres 25:05

Absolutely.

Lisa Beres 25:06

That's fantastic. That's probably my favorite part of your mattresses. I just think as Bau biologist Ron and I have studied that. And of course, we have tips to mitigate, you know, EMFs and reduce your exposure and turn off your devices. But you're right, the majority of people aren't doing that. But tell those athletes to at least put their phone on airplane mode when they go to sleep. That's still my tip.

Ron Beres 25:28

Absolutely. Jack you did a beautiful job of talking about Essentia EMF protection foam. But can you also explain why springs, metal springs in particular, and a mattress can be harmful?

Jack Dell’Accio 25:38

So that it comes down to how the movement of these waves come in. So if you can picture something that is a synthetic wave, something coming from information from satellites, everything that we're antennas, everything that we're streaming, all that WiFi, it doesn't come show up in a linear, or in a perfect wave, it comes very erratic from all directions and everywhere, and it bounces off everything and impacts our bodies. However, when it bounces off a spring, what it does is it follows that cycle it becomes as an antenna. So what you're doing is the spring becomes almost like a channeling device, that brings it up towards your body. So you're getting almost like cones of EMFs running through EMF, again, from WiFi signals and all that. So it makes your blood cells behave even more erratic. And you'd want it to have so the springs is one of the first things to eliminate, to try to control some of this erratic behavior. And then second is how do you get in a slow wave harmonic wave that mimics nature, because your body can adapt to that and doesn't get interrupted by that?

Ron Beres 26:51

That's a great point. Yeah, because we're all semi conductive, right, and our cells communicate at different levels. And unfortunately, much like a tuning fork, if our outside environment is has a frequency from Wi Fi, or any device in our room, and we're picking it up because it's connected to the springs in our bed. It's affecting our cellular communication. And unfortunately, just like the tuning fork, if you ring one tuning fork and put it next to another, it starts to take that vibration with it. So they're both resonating at the new resonance. But you may not want to be resonating with that resonance that's connected to the spring in your bed now affecting your health and affecting, you know how your brains communicate with the rest of your body. So long story short, that can disrupt sleep, like you know, right and also can affect our health. So well done.

Lisa Beres 27:31

The metal in the springs also distort the Earth's magnetic field. So we're very big proponents of no springs in your bed. It's funny when you get a bed mattress that has no springs, there's so heavy like you said so because they can't fill it up with emptiness, right? I mean, the junky mattresses that you see out there, you know, it's just like springs, and then you get your Petro polyurethane foam derived from petroleum. And then you get your toxic cover. And then you get sprayed with some kind of topical treatment. And it's just the typical mattress that's just so toxic. I wish people understood like, you know, you are investing in your health, you don't need to be a world renowned celebrity, to treat yourself to a great mattress. And I just think it's one of the best things that you can do for yourself.

Jack Dell’Accio 28:18

The feedback that we have is we have certain things like when we talk about EMS, we work institutional, we work with biohackers, we work with people in the know. So everything we do is evidence base. So through DarkField Microscopy, we're able to really demonstrate that this is real, this could be damaging. And here's a solution. But then beyond that on just feedback from athletes and from our consumers, is they're sleeping better. They're feeling better. They're happier, more content with everything, their life more focused on where they want to go. So many important qualities to have in good sleep. And it's unfortunate, not everyone realizes that because again, those springs should be chucked out those polyurethane mattresses, this is a worthy investment is a fraction of investment of a car. People are investing in all kinds of things, you know, but the sleep is truly truly a life changing.

Lisa Beres 29:12

Yeah, one of the greatest gifts you can give yourself and your family because you're right when you don't sleep, that you're irritable, you're snappy, it affects not just you it affects everybody around you. And so the last question, can you explain to our listeners how understanding one's posture can help them choose the right mattress?

Jack Dell’Accio 29:29

So your posture is that's where I'm able to consult on the right mattress without them actually trying to match. The one of the one of the funniest examples I have with that was I was dealing with the owner of a sports team. And the owner of a sports team is basically..

Ron Beres 29:45

You are saying which city Jack can you say the name?

Jack Dell’Accio 29:48

This was back in Montreal?

Okay, this was the owner of the Montreal Canadiens and because all of his players were sleeping on our mattress, and so it was the coaching staff and the general manager. And he says, you know, called me up and goes, you know, let me get one of these as well. So how do we choose a mattress? And I said, Well, you know, to be honest with you don't choose a mattress, I choose the mattress for you.

Ron Beres 30:10

What was the Seinfeld episode the soup Nazi like he didn't give me soup.

Jack Dell’Accio 30:18

No soup for you. The basically, as soon as I can identify the posture needs, that is what you need. So if you have a very pronounced lower back curve, for example, you need to get into the mattress more, again, a conventional mattress, they'll tell you need us to have a softer mattress to fill that up. The problem with a soft mattress is no support. Lack of density, leads the back pain with our mattress have pronounced lower back arch needs increased elasticity. So again, eliminate that negative space. And whereas someone who's got a flat lower back, needs to sleep more on the mattress, rather than in the mattress. It's that posture that determines whether you're going to sink into a mattress or whether you're going to stay over the mattress. So a flat lower back really puts all of the density towards your lumbar area. And you'll go too deep into a mattress as it is. So the posture really determines what's the right support and the right support should equal the right comfort as well. Because everyone thinks that you know people like to say, comfort is different for everyone. But it really isn't. If you're sleeping painless, proper pressure redistribution mattress got to be comfortable to begin with. It's not a customer mattress, you can't call it a mattress. Right? The comfort should be non topic, but support based on your posture is the key to having a comfortable and supportive sleep.

Lisa Beres 31:43

Right and not so much. Are you a side sleeper, back sleeper, but more about your posture. Would you say?

Jack Dell’Accio 31:49

Absolutely, it. Also, it's almost like the defense mechanism, you end up sleeping in different positions to counter the effects of bad support from your mattress. When you're getting the right support for your mattress, you tend to not have to change those positions to counter the imbalance.

Lisa Beres 32:06

Imagine that guys, no tossing and turning? Because I would love to see this in hospitals. I can't imagine the more talking about the healing power of all of these components that you guys have put into making, like what I think really is the world's best mattress. I mean, Ron and I love your mattress for so many reasons. And like could you imagine people who are healing, who are have cancer who are in the ICU who need like ultra care? And what are they sleeping on? What are those mattresses? I mean, they have to be like terrible, right? Yeah, they go up and down. Yeah, they're automated, but the mattress itself has to be polyurethane foam, I'm sure.

Jack Dell’Accio 32:42

The issue with the institutional side is that the main focus is not on long term care. It's being in a clean environment, as far as germs and all that kind of stuff. So they have only all synthetic in most cases, they're anticipating that you're on a short stay. So, you know, exposure to chemicals for a short stay is not as health risk as people when they get home and they're chronically exposed to these low level chemicals, and that has immediate impacts. But I do think that certain people in hospitals would benefit most, you know, if they're there for a few days or a week, they would benefit the most of having a clean toxin free environment. But that's kind of not in the cards these days.

Lisa Beres 33:27

Maybe hospice and nursing homes too. If they can access that as more long term like that would be great too. Yeah, just a little shout out there. Wow Jack This was amazing. Is there anything else you want to leave with our listeners any final tips? You know in you don't just make mattresses you have pillows, and toppers right. And pet beds?

Jack Dell’Accio 33:50

Yes. What make the pillows are all made out of the same material all beyond latex. We make awesome pillows and toppers are corrective. Sometimes people are getting our toppers as a band aid to cover up what they have. I do believe more so in the whole mattress, because keeping it clean, keeping all the layers but obviously the toppers have been very helpful for many people. We've also do some sheets as well, but we really only focus on performance niche sheets, always organic, everything we touches, certified organic. But you know what? It's something that we've taken so much pride into that we've obsessed over every little detail. So it's not a vast selection of things because our main specialty is making the ultimate optimized sleep mattress.

Ron Beres 34:36

Yeah, you've done it Jack. That's perfect. Your dream came true. Look at everyone benefiting from this.

Lisa Beres 34:41

I know it's amazing. It's your pain, be your path. That's something we talk about a lot on the show. That's how we got into what we're doing today. I got sick from a toxic calm and sometimes these things that are your pain and that becoming, you know, ways pads to help so many other people. So thank you for all the great things that you do to help so many people and really changed the world of bedding. Jack, thank you so much for being with us today.

Jack Dell’Accio 35:04

Thank you guys.

Lisa Beres 35:05

You can learn more about essentials line of non toxic bedding products at myessentia.com or check out their Rise and Thrive Essentia podcast.

Ron Beres 35:15

Thanks for being with us today friends. We'll have all the links in the show notes at ronandlisa.com/podcast and join us in two weeks for another episode to get ready to uplevel your health by Thanks, Jack.

Jack Dell’Accio 35:30

Thank you guys.

Narrarator 35:35

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