Have you ever suffered through painful waxing, laborious lasering, or threading torture & injury to remove unwanted hair? If you have, stay tuned. You don’t want to miss today’s show. Our guest, Salome Sallehy, the founder and president of Sugar Sugar Wax reveals a safe, non-toxic, natural, and gentle way to get rid of unwanted hair that is over 3,000 years old. Salome finally found an alternative that not only gives a miraculous glow but is gentle on sensitive skin and the planet. Her secret sauce is all benefits, with no risk, no waste, and no nasty chemicals. It is so natural you could eat it.
- What sugar wax is and how it differs from other types of hair removal wax
- Some of the health concerns with traditional methods of hair removal
- The environmental impact of the most common hair removal methods compared to sugaring
- Is laser hair removal a healthy option
- The do’s and don’ts when it comes to sugaring
- Laser hair removal and the body burden connection
- How our individual bodies/differences determine the best method of hair removal
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Lisa Beres 00:49
Gals and oh you guys too. Have you ever suffered through painful waxing laborious lasering or threading, torture and injury to remove unwanted hair? I definitely have. If you have to stay tuned you do not want to miss today's show. Our guest Salome Sallehy is here to reveal a safe, nontoxic, natural and gentle way to get rid of that unwanted hair. And this is a method over 3000 years old. After a lifetime of waxing and shaving that one may found an alternative that not only gives miraculous glow, but it's gentle on sensitive skin and the planet. Her secret sauce is all benefits with no risk. No strips, no spatulas no waste and no nasty chemicals. It is so natural you can actually eat it.
Ron Beres 01:47
Salome Sallehy professional career in marketing began long before she graduated and received her business degree pioneering some of the first mobile app promotion practices that we know today as the founder and president of Sugar Sugar Wax Salome met a sugar guru while traveling in Australia. Salome then met her sugar tribes in the south of France. These women seventh generation sugar makers from North America showed her the art of sugar making in the cavernous hammams beneath the bustle of the city. Salome was empowered by these women and this art and decided to pay it forward. Her sugar sugar wax formula has modernized the ancient art of sugar to deliver a safe, easy and effective hair removal system that can be used anywhere.
Lisa Beres 02:39
Salome is here today to share more with our listeners. Stay tuned guys until the very end because we have a special discount code just for Ron and Lisa listeners. Wohoo. Today Salome now oversees manufacturing, product development, sales channels and community development. She is also leading the charge on educating the public on clean beauty and ingredient toxicity in cosmetics, and personal care products through the natural beauty summit.
Ron Beres 03:08
Welcome to the show Salome.
Salome Sallehy 03:12
Thank you so much for having me. It's an absolute honor to be talking with you guys. I can't tell you how excited I am.
Lisa Beres 03:21
We are so thrilled to this is definitely a show that we have never done before. But something that I know everybody listening can relate to, like I said at the top, it's for guys to write and hair removal and the men is become really big and important. And I'm going into that never-ending battle that we're all trying to like have a pain free experience. But really what's cool about what we're going to get into is that yours is not just painless, but it's actually good for the environment. And it's healthy, and it's nontoxic. So, we're going to get into that we're so thrilled you're here and let's just get started. Yeah. So, tell me what is sugar wax? And how is it different from any other types of hair removal wax.
Salome Sallehy 04:02
It's different in every way, but let's just start with what it is. So, sugar wax is basically a sugar base to waxy substance. And there are countless ways of treating the sugar heat treating cooking, like there's various ways to make sugar wax, and not all sugar waxes are equal. You have sugar wax that you apply like conventional wax with a spatula, and you remove it with a strip. And we also have our sugar wax which is reusable which you don't need anything for it. And we're going to talk about the science of that a little bit. And what's really different than any other type of wax is everything. Everything that you've ever experienced that was unpleasant during waxing, whether it was your skin being stripped off, the ingrown hairs after the hair breakage that results in regrowth in as little as two weeks. Oh, yeah. All of those any sensitivity not being able to go out into the sun, you don't have any of that with sugar. Wow, the application is the opposite of waxing in the sense that when you apply it, you apply it against the grain of the hair growth. And you remove it in the direction of hair growth.
Lisa Beres 05:28
Oh, okay, That's different.
Salome Sallehy 05:29
It's different. And it's interesting because the hair follicle isn't being pulled back. It slides out easy. You have less breakage, and it's less painful.
Lisa Beres 05:41
Yeah, that sounds less painful.
Ron Beres 05:43
Well, how does it know how to do that?
Lisa Beres 05:45
Well, you do it, you apply it right Ron.
Ron Beres 05:47
See I've seen ever okay.
Lisa Beres 05:49
He obviously hasn't tried it yet.
Salome Sallehy 05:52
No, I'll totally show you a demo. But what makes this type of sugar wax so special, is that we've made this formula so that it actually doesn't bind to living skin cells. Oh, wow. And what you tried and you're like, oh my gosh, I didn't feel anything, which was a very common reaction. It's because you're not pulling on living skin cells. Oh, every other wax out there. It's like glue, right? So, everything and it's literally removing a layer of your living skin. Yeah. And sugar doesn't do that.
Lisa Beres 06:28
Which is why you're so red after a waxing. Right? You're just like, Ah, you see her coming towards you with that spatula, and you're like, oh, it's going to be painful.
Salome Sallehy 06:38
You know what's coming.
Lisa Beres 06:40
And threading to I actually tried threading. Once. I know people swear by it. Oh my gosh, I had the worst experience. I only did it once. And it was so incredibly painful. I don't know how these women endured. It was on my face. There's the little peach fuzz around my chin and cheeks. I was in tears laying on the table as she did it. And I left and Salome my face. They looked like blisters. Almost it was all red like welts. Like I couldn't go out of the house for a couple days. And I sent the esthetician the pictures and I was like what on earth? And she's like, well, you must be really sensitive. I'm like, Yeah, well, it would have been nice to be warned that this was a sign of that. Me too. That's something you don't hear people talk about. Right?
Salome Sallehy 07:25
Yeah. And you know, it's so funny because you and I are among very few people who have that reaction. And that reaction and that pain from threading is actually what took me on this path. It took me out of my very executive career in technology. Yeah. And catapulted me in this because I like you would get threaded but I did it regularly. Painful and awful. And I would come out. And I know the welds that you're talking about. They're like these hives. I just stuck my face in a beehive got stung all over. And then I would need like five to eight hours for the skin to calm down.
Lisa Beres 08:07
Yeah, when it first happens, you don't know if that's permanent. Oh my god, the esthetician. She's like what's like your skin? Whoa, she was even shocked when I sent her the photo. Needless to say, I never went back to that.
Salome Sallehy 08:17
And one of the things that's really common with waxing is people who do have sensitive skin. Or they might be on a certain medication that affects our skin barrier, or acne or 100 other things that can get into a little bit more in depth. But having that like you can't walk. You can't do a lot of hair removal things because so intense on your skin.
Lisa Beres 08:40
Your largest organ. I have one quick question before we got on. How long does sugar sugar wax do the results last?
Salome Sallehy 08:47
It really, really varies. But we say an average of four to six weeks. Wow, that's great. We've had customers write us and say, like we had an older customer and she sugared her arm. And she had never remove the hair on her arms before. And she's like it took four months for it to grow back. Oh, I bet. Yeah, well, you're removing the hair from the follicle which means it's going to take longer than when you shave it or cut the hair or whatever, right? But because you're not having the breakage that you typically get with waxing. The regrowth is a lot slower. And the more you do it, the longer it takes nice like when I first started sugar in my face and you actually don't even really need to sugar your face for fuzz. I now train estheticians to do sugar and facials because it binds to the dead skin. Like a really deep exfoliation. Okay, but I used to do it like once every four to six weeks like when I was threading waiting for it to regrow and all that. Oh, and I've been doing it regularly for the last four or five years. Okay. And now I do it Like every three months.
Lisa Beres 10:01
Just everything just to get rid of that little peach fuzz. Right? Yeah. Okay, that's really good.
Salome Sallehy 10:06
Like cleanup around the brows. And sometimes like in the summer, I'll like leave it on the bridge of my nose for like a minute just to lift off that dead skin and then you're glowing after.
Lisa Beres 10:18
Really. So, it's safe to put it all over your face all over. It's flattering.
Ron Beres 10:24
I have a very odd question. And maybe this is for men, for example, right? When you shave, why wouldn't you to sugar wax your face? If you don't want to have a five o'clock shadow for a week or two? I've always wondered that.
Salome Sallehy 10:35
It's not a super simple answer, but I will answer it. We typically don't recommend that men use that on the beard. And the reason is because the hair is so deeply rooted. It's got so many connections and binds to your cardiovascular systems. So, you've got like veins and vessels. So, when you remove that hair, it's going to bleed out of the pore. Having said that.
Lisa Beres 11:04
Of course. Right? Yeah, compared to women.
Salome Sallehy 11:07
Having said that I have trained an esthetician who actually treats the male neck. She's in the Bahamas, and she does it as a service because a lot of the men there because it's so hot and humid. When they shave, they get ingrown hairs and they get a lot of them and its curly hair because they're Indian. Oh, okay. So, she actually sugars their neck, and they stopped shaving and they stopped getting the ingrown hairs. I actually, once at a tattoo show, I actually sugared an Asian fella his whole face and took his beer too, because it was like thinner and sparse. So, I think it has a lot to do with your genetics and ethnicity. Like if you're like, my brother who's like Middle Eastern man, and he's got like a full thick beard. Like, that is going to be real.
Lisa Beres 12:04
Yeah. That would not be good. Okay,
Salome Sallehy 12:07
You know, just kind of gauge it. It works really well on the neck. I mean, it's my husband. Oh, okay.
Lisa Beres 12:13
So Ron, you could do this. Ron gets that razor stubble for sure.
Ron Beres 12:17
So, I should have mentioned neck. I was kind of talking about the neck when I first mentioned that you're right that can be kind of like, itchy or bothersome. So, thanks for clarifying that.
Lisa Beres 12:25
Yeah, that sounds familiar. What about the men's back hair? I mean, that can be really poor. So, is that not a good spot either?
Salome Sallehy 12:31
No, it's great. I actually. Yeah, we just had TV personality.
Lisa Beres 12:38
Reese who has hairy back who has a hairy back.
Salome Sallehy 12:41
She was actually she wanted to test it on her boyfriend's back and he's Italian. Okay, so there was a lot of hair. They both loved it. Yeah, it was a Valentine's Day thing to do together.
Ron Beres 12:59
Are they still together after this experience? Or is he still in pain?
Lisa Beres 13:02
Now they're even better now. She's hairless back. Who is? What was her name? Can you tell us? No. Okay.
Ron Beres 13:07
Okay, well, we'll just make up a name was a Goldie Hawn?
Salome Sallehy 13:11
We'll make up her name like Christina, first name?
Lisa Beres 13:14
Christina Aguilera. Oh, okay.
Salome Sallehy 13:16
That's all I can say.
Lisa Beres 13:17
I know it is Christina Hall. Oh, yes.
Salome Sallehy 13:21
Christina with the Italian boyfriend.
Ron Beres 13:24
Oh, I think I know who that is.
Lisa Beres 13:27
HDTV. Maybe? No and I think he's Italian. Okay, moving on. Good job,
Ron Beres 13:34
Salome, what are some of the health concerns that might lead someone to search for an alternative method of hair removal, rather than just pursue the conventional methods that we already know?
Salome Sallehy 13:46
Okay, I have to precede this with saying this. Being an entrepreneur is hard. Right. And you literally want to quit all the time.
Lisa Beres 13:56
Oh, you know,
Ron Beres 13:57
It's for a different show. Come on.
Salome Sallehy 13:59
Yeah. But the people who have certain skin conditions which I'll get into, and health conditions that have found no solace in any other method of hair removal. I have literally seen them cry from joy. And that's what keeps me doing what I'm doing. Wow. And so just to kind of get into some of those things, like one of the really common conditions among women is PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome, which is a hormonal condition, which causes hirsutism, which is rapid hair growth in areas that women typically don't get hair, like in the chest.
Lisa Beres 14:45
Oh, I didn't know that. Okay,
Salome Sallehy 14:46
It's an androgen hormone related play
Lisa Beres 14:49
That's not testosterone related.
Salome Sallehy 14:51
Not testosterone, but there is an androgen spike which causes this kind of hair growth and a lot of times when your hormones are alone little bit out of whack like that, wow. It's accompanied by acne, like serious sometimes boil like acne. Imagine that you have this hair, and then you have this skin condition and you can't wax it. You can sit there and pluck it, which is why women with PCOS never leave their house without a set of tweezers. I've learned this. And it's because it's constant and it's fast. It doesn't grow at a normal hair growth rate. It grows twice as fast typically. So, a lot of women are shaving and after some years, their skin has taken a beating from the over stripping of the razor. They have a five o'clock shadow and it can get pretty intense for hirsutism. Yeah, like really that kind of hair growth. You really out of options. But we have seen incredible results with the sugaring. It's so gentle, so you can sugar over acne, as long as it isn't like too much dead buildup, dead skin buildup, because Oh wow. That's what the sugar binds to is the dead skin. Yeah, you get like it slows down the hair growth. So, I teach a bio hack to women with PCOS to actually kind of permanently slow down their hair growth. And it's great for that. People who have eczema, psoriasis, these are autoimmune conditions, if you will, which makes their skin really sensitive to a lot of hair removal methods. So, they've been able to like use sugaring, and then they stay clear for like weeks and weeks. And it's not like shaving where you have to do it all the time and you're constantly stressing your skin out. These are the people that have kept me going because I hear their stories and I'm so touch.
Lisa Beres 16:49
That's amazing. That is so great. And I'm going to give you a plug here. Well, I know we're talking about your product in particular, but you have a four-part system which I thought was so neat. We've heard of sugaring before, but sometimes it doesn't go this deep in like the care of the skin. So first you have what's called clean slate. I have it here and this would clean your skin before you start. I gotta read this guys because our listeners are going to love this. It's nontoxic, vegan, hypoallergenic, cruelty free, paraben free phthalate free and sulfate free
Ron Beres 17:20
Lisa Beres 17:21
And then you do that detox dust, and then you'd put the glow goop which is the actual sugaring product. And then when you take that off with no strips, you hydrate your skin and soothe your skin with what's called Silk slip. This one is hyaluronic acid, a triple hyaluronic and it's also nontoxic, vegan, cruelty free, paraben free, valid friends sulfate free and, Salome, can you can use this on your face just as a daily moisturizer right or just to help your skin you could use it by itself without using it with the product?
Salome Sallehy 17:53
I use it every day. Actually, my husband uses it too. It's just a great moisturizer. It's really rich in hyaluronic acid. And it doesn't really leave anything behind.
Lisa Beres 18:05
I put it on I actually have none right now.
Salome Sallehy 18:07
Ron Beres 18:08
Lisa Beres 18:09
Yeah. Thank you. I love hyaluronic acid It's the plumper, right? Isn't it the ingredient that plumps?
Salome Sallehy 18:16
It does. So, what it does is actually injects your skin cells with the hyaluronic acid, which helps the cells absorb moisture and hold moisture. And the reason why its triple hyaluronic acid is because so often we go to a waxing salon or we do waxing at home and then afterwards, we've stripped the skin, it's all fresh and glowy and gorgeous. And we slather on these like fake kind of gross creams. And I was like, toxic. I'm not even going to get into that.
Lisa Beres 18:48
Yeah, that's a whole other show shaving cream and lotions and perfume and all of these fragrances and things that are not good for you. Oh my god going straight into our bloodstream.
Salome Sallehy 18:59
Straight because now that skin the absorbability of that skin, you've improved it by taking off all the dead skin so you've removed the barriers. So, what you're nourishing your skin with after really matters. So, the triple hyaluronic acid is actually like three different molecular weights of hyaluronic acid. So, your skin can absorb it, whether you're using it on your face or you're using it on your knees.
Lisa Beres 19:23
Nice. Okay, anywhere you have dry skin crepey skin is a good for that too?
Salome Sallehy 19:29
Absolutely. I use it daily. It's actually really helped me like minimize my skincare because I also have two small children and nobody got time for too much skin care steps.
Lisa Beres 19:39
Right? Well, this system really when you think about it, it is such a time saver because I literally never done laser and I'm the shave girl I was actually now I'm the sugar girl from shaving to sugaring. It's time consuming. You've got to shave every day. I mean, you get the little stumbles. It's unsightly, obviously well Think of vacation because I think a lot of people will save their waxes for vacation, okay, I'm going to be my bikini and I want to look great, but why not look great every day? Like, why have that be like, once or twice a year, and you can do this. So, it is the fact that you're saying it lasts four to six weeks, like that's such a time saver to do it once a month or whatever.
Salome Sallehy 20:18
That is a huge time saver. I mean, it's a slower process, because when you apply it kind of have to pull it on a few times. And I'm happy to do like a little demo. It's a little bit of a slower process than like just zip, zip shaving. But like, yeah, then you save so much time in the long run, because you're not doing it for 15 minutes in the shower every day or every other day. You do it once. Yeah, and you forget about it.
Lisa Beres 20:43
Right? Those razor blades aren't cheap, constantly buying your shaving cream, because I think some people might go, oh, it's an extra cost. I'm sure you're saving money and waste from all those disposable razor blades. Right and all that plastic.
Salome Sallehy 20:56
Yeah, and thank you for touching on that. I mean, for me, because I've always been such an environmentalist. The environmental factors like table stakes, but our sugar when you're done with it, you reuse the same lamp like eight to 10 times.
Lisa Beres 21:11
Oh, okay, I saw your video and I was like, how many times can you reuse that?
Salome Sallehy 21:15
I'm just going to do a little demo for you. Okay, we're going to do a demo. When you're done. You just throw it into the compost while you're degradable. Wow, yes, I'm just going to do it on the back of my hand. So first, I want to put on the detox dust. And the reason why I want to do this is because sugar is water soluble, that water creates a barrier and doesn't allow the sugar to bind to the dead skin. So, you want it to be nice and dry. And this powder is all-natural ingredients. We've got like chamomile flowers that we actually mill in our own facility; we have tapioca in there and natural clay. So now I'm just kind of like reaching in here.
Lisa Beres 21:59
Nice you just can put your fingers in, you obviously want to clean your fingers. You don't need a spatula to pull that out or anything.
Salome Sallehy 22:05
You don't but if you've got like really long nails, and you want to use something, you totally can. But it's also like you want to start with clean hands. But just so you know, this formula, we've actually tested it in a lab. And I was to introduce bacteria in here, the bacteria would die within an hour. Oh, wow. Sugar in World War II was used as antibacterial to treat soldiers� wounds, because it has that very antibacterial property, which you would never think.
Lisa Beres 22:35
Nice. Oh, now you just gave Ron more excuses to eat.
Ron Beres 22:39
I was thinking the whole time. I mean, hummingbirds can have this all the time, right sugar
Salome Sallehy 22:43
All the time. So, what I'm doing is I just apply it and pull it back. And I'm doing it three times, this is what we call the triple pull technique. And I could go longer. And then I kind of want to have a like a little lip at the end, right? Because then I grab the edge, and I flick it off. And if I had hair, you would see it in here. But you can kind of see like, maybe yeah, the texture of the dead skin that's in there. And then you just roll it back on, right, and you just repeat. And if I do this to the back of my hand a few more times, it's going to be glowing, there's going to be like a noticeable difference between my right and left hand. So, you just kind of like pull it on. And there's no wrong way of doing Yeah.
Ron Beres 23:25
And by the way, listeners, there's how to videos for this that we're going to share on the show notes later.
Lisa Beres 23:29
Yeah, we'll put links to this exactly.
Salome Sallehy 23:31
And you know, I know that this is a new way of doing hair removal. So, we have tons of content that will teach anyone you don't have to have any experience or know how to be able to do this. You just have to be willing to try something new. And what's hilarious is I kind of thought, Oh, this is great for moms because we're too busy to make waxing appointments, and we need to be waxing or like removing hair like 10 o'clock at night, but a lot of young girls have taken over their mom's jars of sugar wax. And the slime generation just knows how to do this. It's incredible,
Lisa Beres 24:08
Really the slide generation?
Salome Sallehy 24:11
You are watching the video once and they're like, Oh yeah, and then they're like sugar in their mom. I can't tell you how many of these stories I have heard Wow. But you know what happens is as long as the sugar holds this shape that this density, it can be reused. One of my hacks to make one piece of sugar lasts longer, whatever it is, I'll do it like in a cooler time of day or in an air-conditioned room. Okay, so that every time I take off my skin, it cools down and hardens because every time you put it on your skin, your skin actually warms it up.
Lisa Beres 24:45
Right. That's why you have to have that dusting the detox dust right? The detox dust to keep it from sweating right you don't want to do this if you're sweating or you're hot or read the wax needs to be between 70 and 90 degrees so you will warm up the wax maybe in a bowl of hot water or something like that.
Salome Sallehy 25:03
In the summer, I never warm it up. I say generally 10 seconds in the microwave. But if you can make a dent in your sugar, remember the first time I did it and my finger came out clean, because there was no stringy bits, then it's soft enough to use, you just want it to be pliable enough that you can like kind of with some effort, like pinch out like a little ball.
Lisa Beres 25:27
A ball, okay? You don't want it too runny, okay? And then when you're done with those eight passes, say on your arm or leg, then you recycle compost that ball, right? You wouldn't put it back in the jar?
Salome Sallehy 25:39
No, don't put it back in the jar, because now it's got dead skin in it, it's got hair in it.
Lisa Beres 25:44
That would be gross. If you were to compare the environmental impact of the most common hair removal methods like shaving, how does it compare to sugaring?
Salome Sallehy 25:55
This says like zero waste, biodegradable, it has no impact on our environment, like those hair removal creams or phones or sprays. God knows they've come up with every version, right? So incredibly toxic, not just for your skin, but also for the waterways when it goes down the drain. Yeah. And you know, razors can't be recycled, because you've got plastic and you've got metal, you literally have to dismantle it to be able to recycle.
Lisa Beres 26:26
Like Kreps coffee, same thing. They're like a huge landfill polluter, because you have to separate the plastic from the metal. And no one's doing that they sell tools, but it's like, you gotta get in there and work it.
Salome Sallehy 26:37
And with waxing a lot of people don't know, actually one of the primary ingredients in most conventional waxes is resins or polymers, which are basically plastic.
Lisa Beres 26:51
Oh, yeah. petroleum derived, right. A lot of petroleum derived.
Salome Sallehy 26:54
Yeah, a lot of petroleum derived ingredients, especially those ones that when you apply it, then it hardens. So, you don't need the strip.
Lisa Beres 27:01
Is that like the purple? I used to do that one?
Ron Beres 27:04
Oh, interesting. Oh, that's just not so. Wow, that's crazy. Well, selling me a lot of people get laser hair removal. I know its expensive up front, but the results can last for years. Isn't that a healthy hair removal option?
Salome Sallehy 27:17
To be fair, I've had to laser as well before I discovered this sugar and the results can be really good. I think that it's definitely a viable option. But where health is concerned. And what a lot of even laser technicians don't know is that you can actually elicit an autoimmune response from your body. When you're lasering, more than half of your body surface area. Oh, wow. If you ever go in for a laser session, and you're like, Oh, I'm going to do both legs and bikini, that's more than half of your skin surface area. Sometimes, if a tech is a little bit more experienced and knowledgeable, they will tell you that to take it easy. You might have a fever after and not to worry about it. But if you think about how many toxins in our environment in our food that we're battling with every single day, that is already making our immune systems like so antsy and on edge. Why would you want to do that to yourself? If you're going to laser do it like one leg at a time? Minimum, eight weeks apart?
Lisa Beres 28:33
Eight weeks? Oh, wow. It works between each laser. Yeah. And we talk about that Salome make the body burden so much on this podcast, because you're exactly right. It's the little doses of toxins that we're getting exposure to everyday through our food, our water, the air, we breathe the bedding, we sleep on the personal skincare that we use the furniture that comes into our home, carpets, paints, walls, everything in your home. And so, people will say, Well, this product, even though it has cancer causing chemicals, well, it's such a low level. Yeah, but nobody tests about the long-term chronic exposure to these chemicals. And we have an epidemic of chronic illness in this country and that people have to start reducing their body burden and reducing those toxic exposure. So, I love that you brought that up. Like with any laser, it's risky. I'm sure there's risks that you have to sign when you go into get a laser like hey, if I burn, I get burned or whatever. You're not liable.
Salome Sallehy 29:28
Sorry, I was just going to say it also doesn't work on everyone. And what I see a lot and it like breaks my heart is like these young girls, teenagers who are like wanting to wear their crop tops like wanting to wear their short shorts and they're hairy and they don't know how to wax they don't like shaving, because they're always cutting themselves in they have to walk around with band aids. And somehow, they talk a parent into letting them get laser. But like laser every time your hormones like hair growth to the function of hormones. So, every time your hormones change, you're going to have that hair comeback like a pregnancy or growth, like any teenager, like you really shouldn't be doing laser until after the age of 25. If you're going to do it, do it in small doses, like small body parts, if that is the only way to go. And then on most people, it doesn't work all over, like it'll work on their face, but it won't work on their body. Also, the function of hair, especially in our toxin purge sites, like your lymph areas, your underarms, your bikini area, groin areas, they're there to help your body carry out the toxins and remove bacteria remove bacteria. So how many women have I heard from that have had their bikini lasered? And then like years and years later, there's no hair growing there. But all of the pores are like filled with white pus and blackheads. And this and that stuff can come out.
Lisa Beres 31:05
Oh, that's interesting. No, I never knew that. I think we've gotten to be a society where we're just so obsessed with youth and beauty that people especially the younger generation, they're getting their hair, like high school and before they're getting fillers in their teens, they're getting boob jobs for their graduation, like even junior high. It's really sad. Yes, we all want to look our best. And I don't think there's anything wrong with doing touch ups. I really don't in moderation. And really dealing with the issues, especially as a teen, like you said, like, you should be waiting until you're 18. Well, your brains not fully developed till you're 25. So, I like your 25 number later, you're 25 Then decide, do I want to take the risk, because everything has a risk, everything that you do medically.
Salome Sallehy 31:49
You know, like the silver lining of our time, right now, we're becoming more aware of this stuff. The silver lining is we're also going into a time where diversity is being really celebrated. Beauty is being expanded. We're becoming more tolerant and accepting of like different nose shapes and lip shapes. So, I feel like we're going in a good direction.
Lisa Beres 32:10
Yeah, I agree. I agree. celebrate our differences. Sometimes, you know, we're here in Southern California, you can go out and you grew like everybody looks the same. Like girls, same color hair, same length hair, you know, and it's like, wait a minute, where's all this like uniqueness? We need to celebrate our uniqueness? Absolutely. Salome why do you think that sugaring is catching on now, even though it's been around for so many years, such a long time?
Salome Sallehy 32:33
I don't really have a really good answer to that. But I think the more we have the Instagram culture of like everyone wants to look like a dolphin and have no hair, the more people are starting to deal with like the consequences and side effects of all the conventional methods of hair removal, people are really looking for an alternative. One of the things that I found when I discovered this, and were like, Okay, we need to like I'm still holding it guys, mass produced this and make it available to everyone. Another thing is that sugar is very sensitive and volatile. While you can do a lot of things with it, as we know, you also have to have a very controlled environment to be able to get consistent results regularly. That's one of the things like we couldn't actually get a contract manufacturer to make our formula. Because no one has that setup, like we have to climate control are when we're in production. And one of the funny things I mean, maybe this is a trade secret, I shouldn't be giving it away. Don't think too much about it. We only do production in the spring and in the fall. Also, the atmospheric pressure can affect the outcome. So, part of it is that it's starting to catch on now because we really haven't had the technology, get that consistent result on mass.
Lisa Beres 34:01
Nice. I love it. Going back to the laser. I meant to ask you this. When people do the laser hair removal, is it something they have to redo like years later? Or is it a one time?
Salome Sallehy 34:11
You almost always have to redo it, but with what frequency like how often how many years? It really varies? I've heard of people who are like I did 16 sessions, pretty much upfront. 6 to 10 You're going to get results.
Lisa Beres 34:27
And it's painful. I've tried I haven't done it fully. But I've had like a little sample and oh my god, I don't have a high pain tolerance. So, I was like, yeah, no.
Salome Sallehy 34:36
And then some people have to retouch every couple of years. And I've heard of people having to like who do more upfront, they'll only retouch after five or six or seven years.
Lisa Beres 34:46
That gets costly. That's an expensive procedure.
Ron Beres 34:48
Well, if someone wants to make a change and try out sugaring, what advice do you have for them?
Salome Sallehy 34:54
You're doing a great thing because it's good for your skin and the environment. So, I love it. But I would say, understand our sugar wax consistency is key. If you want this to be able to like, do this reusable type of sugar wax consistency is really key, you want it to be not runny, and you want it to be not warm. Start hard, because the harder it is, the easier it is for you to control it. And that way you can figure out your technique, the application, the flick, once you get that, then you're going to be like I can sugar any part of me at any time.
Lisa Beres 35:35
The sugar queen. Well, it's like anything right when you first put on eyeshadow, you're like.
Salome Sallehy 35:39
And I would say like you need to be a little persistent at first one of the things I found that if you're not part of the slime generation that watches the videos and they get it, you want to give it three different settings. And like start with a small area so that you can kind of like get a feel for it. Another thing is a lot of people who are new to sugaring, they will work like they'll keep going with the same piece until it literally starts to fall apart and melt on their skin and then they can't get it off because now it's liquid. So, if that happens, it's no big deal. You just like run it under water, warm water will melt it cold water will harden it so you can harden it up, peel it off. Okay, well you can just melt it off and let it wash down the drain. Super easy clean up. Okay,
Lisa Beres 36:30
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Ron Beres 37:15
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Lisa Beres 37:27
Stay tuned for the next episode and get ready to up level your health by me Thank you. Thank you for having me by.
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