54: How to Cope with Stress the Right Way

Lisa Beres

How would you like to improve your health and keep your family safe? You're listening to that healthy home hacks podcast where we firmly believe enjoying optimal health shouldn't be a luxury. Healthy Home authorities and husband and wife team Ron and Lisa will help you create a home environment that will level up your health. It's time to hear from the experts. listen in on honest conversations and gain the best tips and advice. If you're ready to dive in and improve your well-being and increase your energy, you're in the right place. Alright, here are your hosts, Baubiologists, authors, media darlings, vicarious vegans and avocado aficionados, Ron and Lisa Beres.

Ron Beres

Chronic health conditions are at an all-time high. Something needs to change. We need a different perspective. -Dr. Patrick Flynn. Friends, I have a question for you. And be honest, are you stressed? Stress statistics worldwide reveal that stress has risen dramatically across businesses. According to the recovery village, approximately 75% of people in the US reported experiencing moderate to high stress levels just in the past month.

Lisa Beres

Yep. And according to a Harvard School of Public Health poll of the people who suffered a major stressful event 43% report that the event was health related. Guys, I mean, stress can lead to inflammation and unfortunately, even more serious health issues. Americans no surprise there were voted as one of the most stressed people in the world. According to a Gallup poll, around 55% of Americans cited feeling stressed for most of the day, with anxiety and worry being common among another 45% of the population mainly related to finances. As millions of us seek ways to lead a healthy life we search for ways to address our stress levels and minimize the consequences of a stressful life.

Ron Beres

Our guest today, Dr. Patrick Flynn, is here to change that and is as passionate as you about making sure families are healthy. He helps people think differently about their health, restore hope, and finally feel great again. He is the founder of The Wellness Way with over 80 clinics worldwide is wildly popular public seminar. The Hormone Connection has been viewed by hundreds of thousands of people. Dr. Flynn believes that everything in the human body is also connected. He is here with us today to help you start caring for your body and be one step closer to finding the root cause of your challenges.

Lisa Beres

Yay. And in his youth, Dr. Flynn experienced a series of events that led him to discover immune and neurological issues. This discovery prompted Dr. Flynn to begin his health journey, define his life purpose and initiate the pursuit of his education. It ultimately led him to his dynamic career where he has created a totally different approach to health care. Dr. Flynn has over 20 years of experience. He is the Best-selling author of I Disagree. He's trained 1000s of doctors around the US and is an expert on human physiology, anatomy, nutrition, herbal medicine, and chiropractic principles.

Ron Beres

Welcome to the show, Dr. Flynn.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

That was one heck of an intro. Thank you so much.

Lisa Beres

We're so happy to have you. Thank you for being with us today.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I'm so excited. I cannot tell you how long I've been looking forward to this.

Lisa Beres

Oh, well, I'll tell ya, we've covered a lot of topics. I don't think we've really covered stress and it is a pandemic, the pandemic of stress right now.

Ron Beres

How does that work, Lisa? Stress and pandemic?

Lisa Beres

I think Dr. Flynn is going to tell us.

Ron Beres

Absolutely, we'll get right to it. So, Dr. Flynn, what effect does stress have on the body?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Well, I want you to think of this, it changes everything very quickly. You know, if I was sitting in studio with you guys, and let's just take a physical stress, okay. And a lot of people do not realize that your big toe controls your heart. And people like well, what do you mean, I love the faces. But I get that I said, Well, if I happen to step on your big toe, what happens your heart rate, immediately, it goes up, that physical stress led to a change in your blood pressure, heart rate, cholesterol levels, brain levels, all your hormone levels, from a simple physical stress just by somebody stepping on your toes. And now the nice thing is usually means you just push somebody off, and then those things will start to go back to normal. And I want you to think about this. What if you had a captive thought that was stressful? Could that change your blood pressure, your hormone levels, all the other things in the by the way? It does and I proved me upon a shadow a doubt that the number one thing that will actually lead to especially ladies being sick is actually mental stress. For example, I was very, very popular hormone production seminar. When I'm talking about different to homeless between men and women, I'll say Okay, listen, who stresses out more men or women and all women say women. Who cause women the more stress? Men.

Laugh, we all laugh, but then I realized that the reason why it's called the hormone connection is because hormones and stress affects men dramatically different effects in both physically and psychologically. And because they don't understand that we actually relate to stress differently, and how it affects our body dramatically differently. And so therefore can relate to disease, accredit to psychological problems, if you're like to relationship problems, all from the understanding that it could start from simple as a thought, a step on the toe, or the sea ate something that was stressful to your body. See, stress is a physical, it's a chemical. And it's actually an emotional thing. Except for sappers. This is I've always said, if you look at some of the major stressors in people's lives, they're stepping on their toe every single day. And it could be from a simple as a bad day at work could be simple as some bad food, it'd be supplies, taking a drug, which actually is a chemical that could actually cause stress to make the body go in a really bad way. Hey, doctor versus so funny, because you said stepping on the toe three times, right? And it's a physical stress.

Ron Beres

This quick story has nothing to do with the show whatsoever. I think its kind of funny. This person was very stressed. So, picture, if you will me a long time ago, in college, dressed up in a suit, applying for an internship and going up in a four-story building. Really a nice dress shoes, really hard heel, right? Okay, so I'm in this, I'm in this elevator, the person behind me, this is also a medical building, he had just gotten an operation on his foot. And he had this very nice soft cast. And you know where I'm going with this, right?

Just got out of the operating room. He was behind me. And I thought I was golfing the particular floor, I went forward and backed up and talk about stress. The back hard part of my heel literally, perfectly went into a soft little cast that he put on. And I heard him scream. And I couldn�t apologize enough, but I think he was in a state of distress.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

If you would actually put a blood pressure cuff on him, you understand his blood pressure would have gone up.

Lisa Beres

Yeah, I'm sure yours was, too, Ron.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

There's some truth to that, if you can relate to it going, Oh, my goodness. Now the nice thing about stress like that, that pain is stress is going to come down very quickly. It's going to find out that most people are have some form of body stress all day long, and they wonder where their conditions and stuff came from. I am a much calmer person today than I was when we first started our business and entrepreneurial journey. I was one of those people like so many listeners, that the glorification of busy that was encouraged. And so, living in that fight or flight stressful mode, I think was something that we embrace. And that was a good thing. And if you did 20 million things and didn't get sleep, that was a good thing, right people brag about not sleeping enough. So, our society definitely self-perpetuates this. But Dr. Flynn, how much does stress affect a person's health? Like, what level are we talking about? It's the key, it's actually a key to actually figuring out the one skin pathological process, it's a key to actually keeping yourself healthy in the first place. Because anytime that your body goes into fight or flight from any kind of stressor, there is a degenerative, there is a process that leads us to some form of disease. If you think about this, if you think about even the aspect of blood pressure, if you have some physical stress, that's continuous, I mean, I know some stuff, now still a pebble in your shoe, and you walk around all day, it's going to change now, the stress hormones, it's going to change your blood pressure. If that blood pressure doesn't come down, you're going to end up with some heart disease, different things of that. And that's why if you're looking at chronic illness, it's nothing more than long term stress. Now, there's really three forms of stressors. There's a physical, there's a chemical and their emotional. So, what I did at a young age, what almost led me to death was I actually consumed a food that creates some stress and inflammation, my body, and I almost died from an egg. Oh, wow. And that's what led me to be a doc and things like that. But I didn't realize this before I even had that kind of reaction, you can actually have that stress. And we know this quite simply. So, I was eating an egg. And even though I didn't have a pathological response yet, but what if you just had a little bit of response, a little bit inflammation, and it was changing the biochemistry brain. We know that even John Hopkins termed it called the gut brain connection. Yeah, there was an immune stressor that created a hormonal change neurologically, and I was diagnosed as a juvenile delinquent as third grade. They said, I couldn't focus today, they would call me ADHD, ADD or Asperger's, things like that. But what if I told you that those children, those individuals, people with psychiatric issues, that they have some stressors, there are like a pebble in their shoe all day long, that they're not looking for and if all you do is try to give some drug or medication to alter it, the stress is still there and that's just causing more side effects. So, you're allergic to the egg? Is that what we're talking about an allergy? Okay, which where you continuing to eat eggs and not knowing or know So, for example, I was the kind of individual that as I had eaten eggs my whole life and that

Got into my teenage years and things like that. And then that's what got me on my health journey. Because all sudden next thing you know that you actually get some you find those inflammatory things that are stressors and go oh my goodness. And to this even this day, I've never reacted since a long time ago. Well, why? Because I avoid that stress. Yeah. But if I want to put my body into a fight or flight disease developing process, just keep on eating eggs. People say, but you don�t use chemicals or stressors, why don�t you just eat organic eggs. Well, good. I�d be organically dead.

Lisa Beres

Right? We interviewed Dr. Gina Nick a couple episodes ago. She's a naturopath here in Newport Beach. And she talks about the exact same thing you're saying that she treats behavioral disorders with mostly children? Yeah, the first thing she does look at their diet. Yeah, and that's for people listening. Think about that. If your child is drugged up on medication, what's the long-term effect of those meds? What's the side effects that they're dealing with? Maybe there's a better option for you.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

The stress is significant.

Ron Beres

Can give us some examples of stress? I know, we just talked about the factors as why stress was involved. But can you give us some specific examples?

Lisa Beres

What is causing most people stress?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Well, okay, so let's do this. So, to give you a little story on that, let me set up a little bit that way. So, my history led me to there where I was like, Okay, now I decide to actually go for nutrition, immunology, all the different backgrounds is undergraduate. And then I knew that medicine didn't have the answer, because there was like, Okay, listen, why don't you just take some allergy shots, you give things that like, no one I started investigating, I was only a teenager at this time. So, I said, you know, something, I'm going to actually look into some more natural healing professions. And that's why I went to the chiropractic realm. It was kind of neat, because I took all my education put together. But really what led me to actually understanding even talking about stuff today is I was just finishing up graduate school was completely done yet. And I met my beautiful bride. Okay. Now this time, obviously, I didn't know she would be my wife. But she was told that she could never have children. She had endometriosis, cystic acne, also colitis and cluster headaches. And from what I understood, and from my experience, being a young individual to a doc, I realized that what they were telling her. I said, I disagree with them, because it didn't make sense to what they're telling me that way. And what if I told you that, for example, no joke. So, all of a sudden, I had to figure out the stressors to my wife. Now, today, we're married over 20 years. We have four beautiful daughters.

Lisa Beres

I have seen your Instagram. Of course, I checked you out before the show. And I was like, oh my god, what a gorgeous family. Your family is so cute. Okay, go check them out on Instagram, cutest family ever.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

They do look like my wife. So that's a good thing. Okay. But the thing is this, but here's what happens. Where they were trying to change her body. It actually they never looked at the stressors. Now my wife, no joke grew up on a dairy farm when I started testing her to find out those inflammatory stressors. So, anything that stresses by like physically and I'm not joking step on your toll is a physical stressor. I know sounds funny. One of my degrees is a chiropractor. A spine, inflamed can be a stressor. That's why you hear about certain things go on away if you remove that stress, but they don't all go away. Because of that stress. There are other stressors. Now my wife grew up dairy farm, no joke. So, I ran all their food panels see like, that's usually do. Guess what her number allergy was? Dairy. Oh, even though she had raw dairy, unprocessed, things like that. It was an inflammatory stressor to her. On top of it. She was in college, in just graduate college, I met her she started her career and everything of that, talk about the mental stress. And I will tell you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that mental stress will kill women faster than anything. Because it's something that they can hold on to on a regular basis, that will put our body into fight or flight things that release into pathological disease and illness. And so, I came along said something. As a doc, it's my job to figure out all the stressors in individuals. And I can tell you, people say, you're telling me that the whole hormonal system out there right now, I can tell you right now I can I can connect it just by showing you one hormone, that the stressors will deplete a woman's hormones faster and anything under this. Ladies, have you ever experienced this? You had something mentally stressful happen? And you skipped or delayed your period? See, because there is a connection. That's why talk about medicine looks at the body like it's a bunch of separate gears. How do I know there's a podiatrist? There's heart doctor? Yes, is the person that knows more and more about less than less?

Ron Beres

Yes, I'll say that again. That's funny.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

A specialist is a person that knows more and more about less.

What they do is, I�d say a Swiss watch. It's a bunch of gears, and they look at one gear and they say look at this. Yeah, I want especially now to look at the whole-body connection. Yeah, exactly. And that's why it's simple when you sit there and go, if you stress out your adrenals What's your stress, stress? If it's mental, if it's chemical, if it's physical? Here's what happens. Everybody knows there's a stress hormone called cortisol. Yeah, but here's the one thing which made me get known 23 years ago, which made my hormone connection seminar so important. Cortisol actually comes from progesterone. Progesterone is so key to a woman's life.

Lisa Beres

Yeah, I can, I can attest. I supplement it with it. I've supplemented with progesterone for so many years natural, made from yams. A lot of people don't know that but bioidentical progesterone is actually derived from yams - wild yams. And it made me feel so great. Yeah, it's the feel-good hormone.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

But here's where I will differ on this. I'm okay with you using that. But do you ever ask why you're constantly in your progesterone drained?

Lisa Beres

Right. It's my husband. It's Ron�s fault.

Ron Beres

This is like an intervention. What's going on?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

But I do want you to think about this. So, I'm out speaking about hormones. I'm not doing hormones. And women are like, Okay, Doc, you gotta teach this and teach us because the stress lay, though. And also, there's a pastor in one of the seminars one time, he's like us, because church, you know, the second largest group I speak to is Christian marriage conferences. Yeah. All right. Here's what happens. There is a hormone connection between these things. And the flip side get this. If I was in studio with you right now, and I tried to physically attack your husband, testosterone is not connected to it. Men are meant to handle stress. Women are not. You don't depend on testosterone, we do. And your fight or flight actually hormone. When our cortisol goes up, guess what happens? The biggest thing that's affected maybe is our digestion, but we actually get stronger. We get stronger. Because you're from you're from California, and I don't want to be disrespectful at all. There's a big feminist movement. I'm going you can have a big feminist moment all you want. You talked about before you push yourself ladies hard, you will end up sick.

Lisa Beres

Oh, yeah. Good Lord. And I was there. Yep. Yep, I did that.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

So, I had to go around preaching and listen, we need to do these things. The stress is actually contributed to it. Yes. Is there more than mental stress? Yes, but you have to realize for 23 years. Remember, my number one thing I dealt with my whole career was fertility. I actually can't tell you last time I ever took care of a patient that was a guy. And there are I've got clinics all over, we take care of millions of guys every year and some of that but here's the point is going, I started to realize that women actually have so many stressors to life. But I started to realize actually getting into one, that the mental stress actually destroyed them the most. The mental, okay, the hormones are different for men and women dictate how we deal with stress. This, if you think this way, testosterone is a very focused, laser focused hormone, it can get to focus on one thing. Women's estrogens are very connecting. That's why they can connect. That's why they can do multitasking like crazy that way. And if a guy sees a woman stressed, he walks over there, I guarantee your husband walks over to you because he loves you. He gives you his best advice from his hormonal standpoint is, honey, stop thinking about it. Yeah, you want to kill him?

Lisa Beres

Yeah. Every woman can relate to that. Yeah.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

And I started realize going, but there's a hormonal reason why. And that's the disconnection. Because we have to understand how guys relate to stress and women relate to stress and how affects their hormones. I started teaching. So, I go on, I started getting emails saying, doc, you made our marriage better. And like, I was like, so it's really kind of funny how I evolved into the process. Yeah, I was more of a sick kid issue. But my wife�s story allowed me to actually evolve this from that kind of thinking. Right?

Lisa Beres

So, going back to the food that you touched upon. Is that something that you do with all your patients right away? Do you do an allergy and a food tolerance test? What do you advise there for people who are listening going hmm, I've never done that? What should I do?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

So, I have people come to me that are fitness people things that that just give me a whole array of different people. They said, Doc, I have a really god diet. I'm like, let me see your labs.

Lisa Beres

You don't know what's good for you, sometimes.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I�m sorry, it because here's what happens is this your standard, the majority of inflammation, the majority of stress response is immeasurable. You don't feel it. Actually, people realize this. You got an American Heart Association website. The number one symptom is 70% of people that actually have developed heart disease. Do you know what the number one symptom is? Death. Thank god we have a medical system that could save you from dying from a heart attack. All right, so that's why I don't care what people feel. I want to see your labs. Yeah, good diet, because you know what some of this. My wife had no idea from a digestive standpoint that she was allergic to dairy. Didn't feel that way. She's petite. She was always petite. So, what happens this, but because that created a demand on their hormones, it was something that caused an imbalance that you could have never felt.

Lisa Beres

Yeah. And so, I actually labs. Yeah, I found that out many years ago, Ron, when you and I were first dating. I had a great naturopath and she did the full food allergy test which tests for over 100 in foods and casein the protein and cow's milk was way off the chart and so was egg whites for me. I had naturally just kind of avoided these foods. I don't feel good when I ate them. So, I had already taken them out of my diet. But it was so weird to see that on the chart and Oh god, I grew up eating all of that. I did suffer from bloating and digestive problems. So, yeah, your body will talk to you if you listen. Okay, so yeah, we talked about how stress affects people differently. But are there groups that are more affected? Are we talking women, children, elderly groups?

Ron Beres

Age groups. Why are older people grumpier?

Lisa Beres

Because they're in pain.

Ron Beres

Yes, they're in pain. You answered my question, Lisa. I didn't ask the doctor that one.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

You�re actually not, you're not very off. Let me explain why. If you think about her current healthcare system today, and I'll give you an analogy that I created, I think, is actually a great understanding. So, people don't get a biased on this. I always tell people I say I want you to think about, there's really two forms of health care. But even with everything going on today, they actually, there's only one, I would say, Listen, I want you to think about mess and like fire department. If your house catches on fire, you need a fire department get there quickly as possible accident hoses to blow up the fire. But you know that when they're actually put on fire? Do they destroy half your house? They really do. And you're grateful they do it? Why? Because they're trying to prevent your house from burning down in times of the essence. But the fire department even if they did a good job, you would never ask them to rebuild the house with their tools that they have. See, everybody's like, well, Doc, that's pretty simple. You have to call a carpenter. Now carpenter is going to look at the house, if I remember is going to take man, I'm great coverage go, I can go. This is a friggin mess. I gotta rip. I'll do all these things to rebuild it. If you actually understand that example. And obviously, I go in more detail, though trying to cover certain timing podcasts here is if your husband right now had heart attack and stroke, guess what happens? Let's call that a fire. I want him to get as quickly as possible to immerse room axes and hoses, drugs and surgeries to put the fire out. But let me see question. What drug or surgery is going to get his body back normal? I'll help rebuild his body back normal. It's impossible. So, I don't care if it's COVID. I don't care if it's hormones. Okay, this, you cannot get back to normal.

Lisa Beres

It�s just treating the symptom, right? I mean, we're talking about

Dr. Patrick Flynn

No, no, no, it's even treating the condition. It's a fire. And I have no problem with that. And now what we've done because we don't have to take care of people. We've moved into a management. I mean, there's a commercial drug commercial today was like called new way it was a diabetes drug. They say, this is your new normal doing things. No, that's if you're taking care of them. I have people do this. People say, Well, Doc, well, let me ask your husband. You�ve probably done some podcast things like that. When you hit puberty for a guy, testosterone skyrockets, okay, how long does your testosterone stay high for? Good guess for me?

Ron Beres

How long did it stay high for like I started puberty mean? From the start of puberty, when did it start to go down? Oh, well, it still hasn't doctor Flynn, is that is that normal?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I was speaking recently at a medical conference and they said, Well, statistically, after the age of 40, it starts to decrease about six 7% every year. And I stood up I said yes, if they're under your care. Why? Let me ask you a question. From a young age from teen to puberty, just like a cyclic young girl, what have they done to teach you how to take care of your hormones? See it�s not even a thought process to people. It's like, that's my point. And so, all of a sudden, let's say you have all these young girls have all these stressors more stressful. And I will tell you this, and this is where I get a little criticism, because I just even talked about how women can stress. If you have a young athlete, girl, especially high intensity swimmers, bikers, runners, they skip their cycles. Yeah. Because physically stressed out their bodies so much. The doctors take care of them don't know how to take care of them. So therefore, they say, well, it's kind of common for that to happen.

Lisa Beres

I mean, I thought that was normal. I always heard that, too. Oh, yeah. Just because they're athletic, you know.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

But, then why are my daughters who are athletic and actually great golfers and do things that way, do high intensity and never lose their cycle and it's always normal? Yeah, because the doctors taking care of people, they only understand Fire Department type services. Yeah, our whole world includes what's happening today, including your state, which has lost its mind.

Lisa Beres

Yes, we can vouch for that. Hey, listen, if it wasn't for the weather, I don�t know if we�d be here.

Ron Beres

I know you're focused on stress, obviously. Yeah, but are you familiar with gout and symptoms of gout and how that can relieve stress? Okay, so I innately have had gout. Over the years, I've managed to really calm it with my diet and everything too. But we're vegan, we're full vegan now really helped me a lot. And I understand some of the parameters that might cause more inflammation or raise my uric acid levels. But do you have any suggestions? Not to put you on the spot if you don't?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Absolutely. Well, remember, look at gout. Start here. Look at the causal factors, there are inflammatory factors, okay. Number one with gout look for some major immune factor. Okay, so you're going to find out especially when they�re joint related, there's going to be some infections sitting in your body somewhere, there really is. And it could be everything for yeast overgrowth, to a viral aspect that way, and unless you test that stuff, you don't know how to address it that way. Because once again, inside that tissue, and it gets actually to the point where it's inflammatory to where you see those gout crystals. You ever see an electron microscope, they're like little razor blades that way, okay. Now, here's what happens. Another major contributing factor is actually blood sugar. Okay? Just because once again, the kidney issue comes about, once again, kidneys get the damage from it that way it's a then you have a hard time clearing that out and has to recirculate. And then I want to number one factor the stress that the kidneys actually blood sugar. That's why you see so many people on dialysis today, you look at the people are dying from COVID or SARS cov 2 to overweight blood sugar issues. Now, people don't realize you don�t have to be obese, that blood sugar issues. It's really interesting. One thing I want you guys to be very cautious of being vegan is the fact that your blood sugar levels blood very easily. So you need to actually make sure that you have more of a high fiber base vegan, not more of a higher model saccharide glucose based vegan diet otherwise what you'll do, you'll actually move yourself into a happens all the time with vegans they actually become type two diabetic, just because they actually have more glucose based foods thank actually fiber based foods.

Lisa Beres

When you say fiber do you mean fiber from like fruit fiber or are you talking more�

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Okay, let's do this. Okay, remember now you're talking my background.

Lisa Beres

Your lingo. We�re talking your language.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

My daughters, my wife, my patients, with the exception of allergies, trump everything. Yes, I'm going to be biased with allergies, because it could kill me, okay. And I've seen so many allergies through my whole career. So, with the exception of allergies, and I think God that my daughters and my wife and them don't have any allergies to cabbage, so the healthiest. I still haven�t found with exception of one thing is actually sauerkraut is still one of the healthiest foods. Do you understand, two tablespoons of sauerkraut gives you all your vitamin C recommendations for the day?

Lisa Beres

Get out, really? So that would be a daily good thing to take. Okay.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

So, when I have even a diabetic that actually eats crappy, high sugar, carbohydrate-based stuff that way that's all processed that way. I'll say listen, let's start to add something into your diet. Can you do me a favor? I want you to stop all the crap. But you guys know this food, by far was terrible. Stress was by far the most emotional thing that we do. And guess what? He says? No, Doc, It's sex. No, that's not true. People hate me really badly. And food. Exactly. It's really. Women should not fast.

Lisa Beres

Oh, good. Another That's music to my ears. Hey, ladies listening.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Okay. Okay, it will actually destroy a woman's hormones. We can talk about that.

Lisa Beres

Yeah, I'm not a happy person when I fast. Okay, good to know.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

So, by adding some two tablespoons of sauerkraut and maybe like a teaspoon for a child per day, actually sets up fiber content to allow your normal floor to actually start digesting it, but also slows the absorption very nice. And it doesn�t raise your insulin levels? Okay. There are only two things that don't raise your insulin levels. It's higher fiber things and actually pure fat. Okay, okay. Yeah, for example, if your vegan, you want to take maybe like some avocado oil, coconut oil. Yeah, yeah. That will slow the absorption your sugars down.

Lisa Beres

Okay, we do that we love that. Okay, so that's really good. And I've heard that fermented foods like, sauerkraut is considered a fermented food. Right. Okay, so we have like cabbage, sauerkraut, kombucha, kombucha. Kombucha? Yeah. So, this colleague friend of ours, then she runs Mom�s Across America. She's very into very outspoken against glyphosate and GMOs. That's her like, oh, you�d love her. Shout out to Mom�s Across America. Oh, yeah. She cured, no, that�s a different person. I was going to say she cured her children have autism, that was a different person, by taking them off gluten and dairy.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Which was a stress.

Lisa Beres

Which was a stress, right? So, she really, in her research has found that fermented foods actually can help detox glyphosate out of the body too, which is really it's still kind of cutting edge. I don't know if it's being completely recognized by scientific journals yet, but that's something that she's been discovering.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Sure. Yeah, that's the thing. You're talking about a world that way? That's actually yes, it is. See, the one thing is this is the reason why you don't see it on mainstream media is because there's no money in it.

Lisa Beres

You can't buy sauerkraut and a bottle.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

You can buy a big organic one for seven bucks.

Lisa Beres

Okay. I�ve never even seen a sauerkraut. Okay, we're getting. I mean, I've never actually bought the vegetable. So why is stress not a big topic in modern medicine? Why aren't doctors talking about it to their patients?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

If you think this way, you'd have to two reasons. Number one, you'd have to give up on everything you knew in medical systems. I understand that because you understand that the medication by definition is a stress to the body. Here's the only medication is by definition, a non-lethal dose of a lethal substance. That's definition medication. That's true definition. See, do you understand you would have to give up your current form of health care. They say doc, well, a lot of doctors you started out as a natural duck. But medical doctors work for you nurses do NP�s? Yeah, they think we'd like we do. So, I understand. There's value to the fire department type of medical system. But that's not healthcare. That's actually nice. Parents are sick care, right? You know life. Yeah, it is this. So, what happens is this is though like, for example, I could walk downstairs because once can, I mean, I have a beautiful corporate office here, Green Bay, I have a major clinic with practitioners from NP�s, to nurses to chiropractors, and what happens is this. The medical people have to actually delearn what they learned in school to actually work here. Because you know why? Because they're always going on a management, we're always going no, no, there's a stressor. Remember, houses catch on fire, there's triggers to the fire. And so, I'm saying, Listen, we need to dig deep for all those triggers. And you're right, mental stress. But I will tell you this about women, once you actually run a lab and see their hormone stress hormones extremely high, I can even look at them and say, hey, guess what? I don't know what your mental stress is. And I'm not supposed to it's a private issue. But I can tell you right now it's killing you. And I didn't realize by telling them that to them. That actually, when women take the unknown and make it known, they can deal with it really quite well. And so therefore, the current form of health care system can imagine, sit down with a person and go, Okay, listen, you're suffering this condition. Here's your medication. No, no, let's dig in deep. And let's find out the things that are triggering all your fires. Well, no, you have to give up on everything you actually learned. But even doctors are so frustrated right now. I spoke at medical schools, okay. So, I bring that up is because it's a different way of thinking they want to hear what I have to say, because of obviously, your clinical results. And I say, Listen, guys, just understand that you are going to get frustrated. Like other doctors, they're frustrated, like, I gave this person a drug didn't help give them and you understand your standard messes a lot of try therapy. Don't believe me? Here, try this. Here. Try this. I'm like going well, yeah, because stressors change, stressors change based on the season, it's zero degrees here. If I would go in shorts outside, my body won't fight or flight stress. And all my bloods going to pour towards my core to the point where I can actually lose minerals and blood flow and everything to my fingers. And if I stay out there long enough, and I stress my bio long enough, I can lose my fingers and toes. But I didn't make a mistake and said, I'm going to survive stress, I start to figure out that most people's conditions are just long-term stress adaptation. Wow, moving those in your bio program to go back to normal. Ah,

Lisa Beres

Where are you based, by the way? What city? Are you in?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

My first office in my corporate office is actually Green Bay, Wisconsin. I am definitely a huge Aaron Rodgers fan.

Lisa Beres

Yes, love Aaron Rodgers. Shout out.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Yeah. Cuz he told the NFL medical system to screw off. That's why.

Lisa Beres

Yeah. Yes. Standing up for your health. At the end of the day, your health decisions are your choice. And they should be, that's the key.

Ron Beres

I like your approach to dealing with stress. Do you have anything additional you want to say about that, too, perhaps. You go to the root it sounds like.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I will tell you this. No matter what doctor you talk to, if they ever tell you, they can help you, they actually lie to you. I want you to think of this. Well, let's do this. Let's say that your lovely wife just like mine, they're going to have something that's stressful to their life. Okay, think of this way. And let's say even as a doc I have to recognize that, listen, it's a mental stress issue. It's happened that way. So, I'm going to come in and take all that burden as your doctor off, and I'm going to help you know, being a doctor is actually being a tour guide. I'm going to take you on a journey, I'm going to show you what a good life can be like. And so, let's say that I'm allergic to eggs, and I keep on eating them. How can my doctor help me if I'm stressing out my body?

Ron Beres

He can recommend Just Egg for you.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Yes, right. But if I don't listen to him, how can he help me? Any doctor says he can help you is actually saying I'll take all the responsibility. It's like this, get every shot and everything will be fine.

Lisa Beres

Right? We don�t want to go down that rabbit hole.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Okay, so any doctor tells you can help them, to me is actually a liar. I don't care if he's natural, I don't care if he's medical. I'm going really, because if you understand how the body works, the only way that I'm helping you is if your blood pressure is up, because I stepped on your toe and I get off your toe, because I'm the cause of your stress. But it's an individual responsibility. But that's what the doctor�s job is a doctor by Latin term is called teacher. So therefore, guess what happens this? So, this idea that I'm going to give you some magic adjustment, magic curb magic drug that's going to cure you is an outright lie.

Lisa Beres

Yeah. And society has been programmed, that that's what they get. And you're right. I think I see this a lot in the older people too, because they kind of put the doctor on the pedestal and I just want my magic pill and I'll go home and everything will be better. And I don't have to change anything about my life. And I think getting people to understand that and realize that we do have responsibility, and that all of the choices we make add up to our entire well-being of course. Ron and I talk about the toxins in your environment, and those are stressors too.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Yeah, there you go there. Yeah. So that's why as a person I can tell you, I love that person that's fighting it. So, I am basically an advocate for nontoxic living, keep the stress down and what the cool thing that I do as the youngest practitioner, I said, Listen, we can test for all this stuff, we can. And then we need to rebuild the house, because that's what we're an expert in. And I'm sorry, there's no medication, there's no surgery that you can build your house out of it. And it's not a criticism. Vice versa, I can't do surgery. And if you have a heart attack, then guess what, I want the fire department, aka medical system to actually do his job. But they're not the only choice, you understand, and it should be a person's choice. Not everyone has to do this in order to go to school. And this to�

Lisa Beres

Yeah, we're not a one size fits all, kind of. So, what successes have you seen with your patients and helping them with stress? Can you give us some examples?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Well just start with my wife. She was told she could never have children. Now millions of patients across the world that we have seen. For example, it's like you can't have kids, you're going to die cancer, you'll always have digestive problems. It's a genetic problem, which is a type of genetic problems lie. But no, it's just all these things. And I just have to say, I disagree. And what I did as a 24-year-old was 24. When I started this, I looked at I said, and actually saw things so differently because of my health. And what happened I saw my wife do. And then, of course, no one believed me. So, I said, Okay, I'm just up north country boy from northern Wisconsin. And I said, I'm going to prove you all wrong. And I did start with one clinic, started with my own profession, started branching out to other professions started to go, and the next thing you know, it's from New York to Hawaii, and we actually increase in our size every single month.

Lisa Beres

And that's great. That�s incredible. Yeah, Congratulations. People are waking up; they're going something's wrong with the system. We've been buying into this system that keeps telling us lies and spending money, everyone's sicker, sicker than they've been. They're not getting healthy. They're getting sicker. And so, it's interesting how people still put so much credence into it. And you're like, Well, look at the numbers. We have more diseases and more diseases. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Ron and I, we did a couple of shows on that. And we've lost four women in our family, collectively to breast cancer, not one of them had a history of breast cancer, not one of them had the BRCA gene. So that's a something that I want listeners, ladies to listen to, too, because a lot of people think, Oh, they don't have the gene. They're fine. No.

Ron Beres

So, I think I know Dr. Flynn is going to answer this question I have for him. Who is in control, when it comes to stress?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

By far is the individual. Yeah, so it really is. And during people say, well, there's other people that causing stress. Absolutely. Remember life on every situation is based on you respond to it. It always is in November, and I'm talking as a clinician now sitting across from women all my life, and stuff of that and actually understand that that's what people understand. It's kind of layers. I was interviewed Lilly out of breast cancer podcast two hours ago. And it was interesting, because it's quite amazing that it's difficult because we've so programmed people to think that I'm a victim to things that going on and like that's not really true. You have Sam even have the BRCA gene or not BRCA gene, it doesn't determine if you have cancer or not, it's not based on a gene response. Yes, I will tell you this, you're more susceptible to have breast cancer if your estrogen levels are bad and BRCA gene, but still based on your hormone levels, and stuff. So, and once again, if you don't want to get a normal because people say, well, Doc, you know, I have a family history. Yeah. Your grandma and mom had just as bad as healthcare as you had your whole life.

Lisa Beres

Right? Yeah, exactly. Family history of sick care. Yeah. And I wanted to correct myself. We didn't lose four, we had four women who had breast cancer and two of them we lost. Anyway. So, what is the craziest recommendation you've ever given to someone dealing with stress?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Get divorced.

Ron Beres

Oh, okay.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I was surprised. I will tell you this. And if you ask enough women, remember, understand this made me a better husband, or standard, maybe a better doctor when I really understood and I want you to take this seriously. Stress will crush a woman faster anything. I have a beautiful wife and four daughters. Do you think I'm joking? If she was here to tell, she'll tell you I tried to create a very stress, least household that way. I tried to make sure I have a huge company over I have hundreds of women that work for me. I don't want them stressed out because it goes against everything I've done. And I was so surprised the amount of abuse that women go through at home. I always tell people this I'm going to sincerely guess what I have a beautiful wife you have a beautiful wife can understand that no matter how beautiful our wives are, because of their hormones. Testosterone gives you an eye great confidence. Because guess what, I don't care how old your husband is. He thinks he's awesome every single day. Yeah, I can vouch for that. Though. Now watch this. You're going to say about this about your beautiful wife and I can say about mine. I've always told guys never say anything bad to a woman. Because you know what happens by noon that day. She's already said so many bad things herself, don't be adding to it.

Lisa Beres

Whoo. I love that. That's good advice.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Because testosterone is a very confident, it gives us it that's what does our brain. Women are very connective. You want to make a woman very healthy, connect with her. You know what I�m saying? And that's how you keep a woman healthy and happy. No, yes. They have other stressors and things that puts you think about this. I've watched women sit across from me and their husband speak down to them and they're like this and women beat themselves up bad enough already. I was like going don't do this to this, we need to mention be protecting women not only from themselves, but from themselves.

Lisa Beres

Yeah, you guys are both great guys. I know that I'm already figuring that out about you, doctor Flynn. But my husband, yeah, he's an amazing person and always compliments me. And that's my marriage. And I've only known that I can't imagine being in a marriage where someone is putting you down like that, that would be so incredibly stressful every day.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

And that's been my kind of world. But also, when I was doing it, I couldn't even imagine doing that. But it is this. That's why we said what's the craziest thing? I did look at a woman say this is leading you down a bad path? Yeah, I'm not your, Pastor. I�m not going to tell you do it that way.

Lisa Beres

Yeah. Why are you in a marriage? Why are you choosing somebody that talks to like that?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

And then there�s physical abuse. I don't want to speak down to any woman, talk about the fact that you're going to actually look at a person and then physically hit them. It sounds weird. But as a clinician, this is what I had to deal with when I was actually looking at people's, what are those big stressors coming about?

Lisa Beres

Wow. So, we need tools, we need tools and techniques. Would you say? More meditation, more calming? Turn off that news?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

More elimination? Okay, because here's what happens this, if you keep on going some bad. If I keep on stepping on your toe, and you just say, Okay, I'm going to take an herb to calm it down, which you can get a drug to calm it down, which you can I can go bad, you know, just stay away from the person smashing your toe. So first get rid of those things out of your life. But there's things that actually can support your body through stressful times. And for example, no joke. This is probably the second most thing I've ever get out my life is actually because I'm called California Poppy. Okay, well, and actually get it California, Poppy. It's your state flower/herb. Do you understand that? There are fields of it growing like crazy. That medicinal herb, it's actually so good at feeding the brain to actually create a calming effect to a person.

Lisa Beres

Isn't that where cocaine is derived from the poppy?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

No, it�s actually, remember, it's like hemp, and hemp and marijuana. There's a relationship, but it's not the same thing. Okay. I'm actually a very pro marijuana person. Now, I'm not big into smoking it and some of that. So, I don't think people should smoke it. But edibles should be allowed, like crazy, I love he's going to find this. I'm a very big constitutional person. So, I think government should be involved in any of that stuff. But it is this even from I understand, after being a doc like I am, I understand why people abuse drugs, because when you're hurting, I don't care if it's from a condition, or if it's from something mentally, you will do anything to actually take some of the edge off the sufferer.

Lisa Beres

Right? The opioid epidemic and we have a really, our society is broken in this way. And it's so sad. I think it goes back to how we're raised in society and maybe in the family that we really aren't taught self-care and self-love and these techniques of instead of reaching for that food, or that drug, or whatever example.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I got this article and video taken down from YouTube and Facebook cuz I'm still bleeding right now. As I said, parents, you train your kids to be drug users. You're so surprised that all sudden have their whole life got Hey, take an aspirin do those things. Your take this drug? Don't feel good. Go to drug now send your 16-year-old gets dumped and all sudden she runs for something that to reduce the pain? Mm hmm. Yeah. When you're training these kids to be drug users? Yeah, stuff. And then you're surprised that your daughter went got alcohol or some addictive thing? You've trained them that way? Yeah. And I know it's so funny. But see, when you ask the question, there's a self-responsibility part that we don't want to talk about. Yeah, right. Number one thing that two comorbidities that relate to COVID deaths, blood sugar, and actually obesity, or where was a politician or a doctor saying, Guys, stop the damn sugar, guys, loose some weight.

Lisa Beres

Dr. Flynn, they are promoted, they were giving out donuts and giving out all these Krispy Kreme Doughnuts. I was posting this over and over and over. Hey, how come no one's talking about health? How come? We're not getting vitamin C shots and vitamin D IV and oh, how come we're not getting that? How come? There's not? You really could look at the truth and say, why isn't there any conversation about diet, supplementation? Sunlight, exercise?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

No, because there's like $80 billion in a shot for Pfizer over the course of this time. And remember, you can't patent when I told you today. Labs can be done anywhere, things like that. It's actually, I know there's people like you said that are programmed. Years ago, when I started practice, there was Jesus and then the medical doctor, and thank God for the internet. Guess what happened? The internet started to show people that now guess what information actually gets you not follow like a religion. That's why if you ever notice it's not a joke. The internet changed healthcare. And that's why China and all these communist countries that don't want people to have information because they'll change it. Why do you think they're censoring right now? You're saying that's why I get censored. I bring you good information. You're like that is simple basis. But it doesn't follow their narrative. It's no different than Communist China. How they don't have Facebook. They have their own Facebook So they control the narrative.

Lisa Beres

Yeah, knowledge is power and then implementing that knowledge is really the power. So, if you're listening today and you're feeling inspired, I would say well give us some tools. So, I know we talked about mental stress, physical stress, what was the third one?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Chemical. So, like your friend that talked about, here�s what happens. Remember, ladies, this is quite interesting. I love this. Okay? If I were just asked some questions, I'll never it to people say listen, raise your hand if you've ever used Crest or Colgate toothpaste. Almost everybody raises their hand. You know why? Because you've been conditioned use it. Have you ever read the back of it? Mm hmm. It says if swallowed, please call poison control. Women come back saying, I have no idea why I'm sick. Really? You brush your teeth with Colgate? What do you have breakfast? Well, I actually had Froot Loops cereal. I put Mary Kay makeup which is just pure chemical toxins. And then I took my antidepressant in the morning. I'm like, Wow, I have no idea.

Lisa Beres

And I drank my big soda.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

See what happens if they think there's some major event. And then they want to blame their mom why they got breast cancer. See, so there's chemical things. You have to understand that chemicals, medications by definition. Watch this. One of the biggest things I've had to deal with my career was actually birth control. Well think about this. Birth control by diagnostic, actually, in our reference for drugs is known as an endocrine disruptor.

Lisa Beres

Yes, I've seen that. Okay. There's a there's a study on 102, endocrine disrupting chemicals linked to breast cancer that was in the Environmental Health Perspectives. I saw birth control. Wait, it's an endocrine disruptor, like hello.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Plastics, BPAs, all the things. And so, I'm just trying to. Listen, let's do everything we can to get away from those physical stressors. Now I think this way, let's go back to one my other degrees. I'm a chiropractor, because what happens? I'm going to release all that physical stress. That's why people say Oh, you just a few relax. Yeah. Because why just reduce some stress? Well, Doctor it didn�t get rid of my headache. It's not your stressor causing your headache. You're saying, understand they try to put even chiropractors into the viewpoint. That's not what we do. See? So I'm sitting around going, listen, it's the job of a clinician to figure out each individual person and their stressors, and they can change, but we need to actually do those things as you start to dig deep, then people call it clean living, like, it�s not clean living. It's actually just normal living. I love natural immunity. Immunity is immunity.

Lisa Beres

Well, it's like organic, organic produce. Everyone goes, Oh, you pay extra for that? That's a luxury. No, its what food was before we invented commercial pesticides. It's actually what we're supposed to have on our bodies were designed for.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

It�s not even food. It�s Frankenfood.

Ron Beres

Quick question before we go on, we certainly appreciate your time here today. There have been studies on like how long I'm not even sure if this is qualifiable how long it takes to reduce severe stress in someone so they don't suffer detrimental health issues later on. Like, for example, if you quit smoking, they say it takes an average, seven years, maybe if your lungs declare up and you have healthy lung tissue again?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Watch this. Let's give you a basic physiological fact, with the exception of your brain. In neurological tissue, your body regenerates in one year, okay? The brain injuries take longer. And sometimes there can be some permanency and certain things, but you understand if you cut your liver in half, you know it does parent's right to repair your skin. I want you guys to be fascinated that the human body. That's why I love physiology, so much everything I talked about crazy, understand basic physiology the body that way. And that's how it connects the hormones and how it connects everything that way. That's why I said, you know, if you put a pebble in your shoe, it affects your cholesterol levels, exam, but we don't look at it that way. So therefore, be fascinated when you cut your finger. And millions of cells are put there, there's not one doctor and will include me that knows how to do that. And so, you got to be fasting, but you need to give you by the constituents it needs. But remember, if you gave me an egg that constituent could harm my body. You say I'm and we're so regenerative. See, that's why you got to go to a doctor knows to restore things. Yes, pull the toxins away. But then you need to give the body things to rebuild. And that's where my expertise and my stuff became in that way. And so, I don't care condition you have because guess what happened? You still stress your body out; it's going to stay there. And eventually that conditioning can kill you. But your body wants to get this. The minute I step off your toe, does your toe Wait, does your body wait to bring down blood pressure? You're gently programmed for normal. You're not checking program for breast cancer, not genetic program for heart disease. It's not your mom, your grandma's your dad's fault, why you're sick. It's the fact that your genes will respond. That's why I know you've heard this term before the epigenetic process. Genes respond to its environment, but most people's internal environment so toxic, stressed out like crazy, and a real doctor, a good doctor will look and actually try to create those genetic responses. So, if you do have the BRCA gene, you don't want your four hydroxy estrogen high, otherwise you will get breast cancer.

Lisa Beres

Mm hmm. So, we got to approach this. So, would you leave our listeners with, Okay, your job today guys is look in your life. What are the stressors what's causing you stress? Be honest with yourself? Is it your spouse? Is it your roommate Is that your What if it's your child?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Kids by nature are actually stressful. I mean, but then if you do have stressors, their stress adapters, yeah, adapters, okay, adapters. So, what happens think of this way, number one, I want everybody get tested, because you know, you can actually figure out what everybody needs. Okay? You can figure out some of the stressors of the body butter on can you take ashwagandha and CBD and different things like that to give your body the ability to deal with stress there. Sure. You don't want to be like that young little girl athlete that's running every day. And all sudden her body runs a fuel and says, Well, she just lost her cycle. No, because if you give your body some things to adapt to the stress, and see, I like to use a little joke on this, but you understand you I know you'll laugh, but it makes less a lot of sense. When women constantly stress out their body, I can give them things to adapt the stress. Yeah, but you're just creating job security for me.

Lisa Beres

Right? Yeah, it's like indefinite right? Until you change. It's true. Okay, so you got to approach it. And I gotta give a little shout out to mushrooms, which are adaptogens, right? Certain mushrooms, and Ron and I got off coffee. We do MUD. It's called MUD water. And it's four mushrooms, Rishi, Chaga, lion's mane and one other. And then it's to work and its mixed in. It's so good. It's our new elixir in the morning. Yeah. And because instead of making you fight or flight, it calms you. It has a teeny-weeny bit of caffeine from the raw cacao. But it's so good. And Ron is a naturally high, stressed person. And so, I was noticing that every time you drink the coffee, it's just like, you're on edge. And so, we have detoxed from it. We don't do coffee. And what a great change, you know, because why? Coffee, well, how do you feel about coffee?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

You're talking my nutritional world that way. Happens If his stress hormones are elevated, you shouldn�t do it. But actually, I don't know why people freak out about caffeine. You understand, there's caffeine in strawberries.

Lisa Beres

Well, I think the dependency, right? I mean, the obsession.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Dependency is this is, for example, is this if I have a woman that has low cortisol levels in the morning, drink coffee, take the stimulant? Yes, you're going to actually raise your cortisol levels so she can adapt to the day. Now if your cortisol levels are off the chart, guys don't do that. You're just putting a little bit more stimulants in there. They don't need stimulants. Don't generalize to people, cuz if you generalize people, because guess what happens? With my nutritional degrees and stuff of that I can sit there and go, I can actually legitimately prove to person that an egg could be extremely good for somebody. See, so that what happens there? So now, do you know where the best place to use coffee is? In the colon? In your rectum?

Lisa Beres

I know, colon hydrotherapy.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

It actually is less broken down. You get great glutathione production. Actually, it's fantastic for the cells, the intestinal tract. So, there's a lot of great things. So that's why I can't generalize. Non organic coffee. It's the second highest pesticide-based food.

Lisa Beres

Well, I was just going to say that. Yeah, we got to say organic coffee.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Do you know the number one food? Strawberries.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Strawberries dominate, even more than coffee, they dominate like crazy. That�s why you see the hazmat things when they�re spraying strawberries. It's by far the most toxic non organic food,

Lisa Beres

Yeah, just do organic if you're listening to the show, there's no way to defend nonorganic.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

That�s not food.

Lisa Beres

So many chemicals.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

And chemicals, that creates what? Stress in the body.

Ron Beres

Dr. Flynn, thank you so much. I know you've helped our listeners You've helped us I've learned a lot from this. I

Lisa Beres

Well, I want to say one thing. I want to I want to give listeners a tool I know for trying to eliminate the source of the stress but what are some things that are good? Would you say meditation or do you are certain Healing frequencies are you into any of that? More sleep?

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Well remember, here�s what happens if you just understand hormone specially every person should be in bed between nine and 10 every night. Okay, so I've been told that my natural paths before getting rid of me hormones, you will actually cause your adrenal start to put its hormone reserves between 910 between actually nine and one. So that's why if you go to bed at midnight and sleep till eight compared to go to bed at nine or 10 Asleep till five or six, you're much more crisp in the morning, because now you actually have your hormone levels come up at the proper time, which is your circadian rhythm. So, sleep is by far it's the most important. Do not be deficient in your key electrolytes, potassium, sodium, calcium, and stuff and magnesium. Those four especially people do not get enough calcium. Even as a vegan you may be close but you need 4700 milligrams of potassium per day that's seven to 10 cups of vegetables per day. Otherwise you don't have enough potassium itself so your electrolytes alone that way. We don't eat enough salt we actually Salt deficient. And the reason why we people think they're salt excess is because process salt actually has a very high affinity a standard body, but you're more potassium deficient. Now what happens this, this other stressor doing wrong, you need to get your hormones tested, you really do remember testing to me is the key, because it's individualized that way. So yes, do everything that comes down, watch the sun come up, watch some come down infrared saunas. I mean, I love watching the sun come up actually helps your hormone levels, helps your energy levels helps everything that way. I actually ground even the winter, put my feet on the ground. I love infrared, light, things like that.

Lisa Beres

Connecting with nature.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I'm a country boy. I live on acres; I have a big house in the middle of a country that way. I like to wake up and go outside even in the cold. I remember cold therapy, cryotherapies and there. Yeah. But then they said no joke. There are so many good things that you can do. But what happens this is that's why it's a journey be guided by somebody that knows what they're talking about.

Lisa Beres

Yeah. Just don't just hear it on the news and then go. Yeah, so back to that salt issue. Are we talking about because the salt is no longer iodized? Is that the problem? Why people are so deficient? Or is it the soil of the food of salt? I mean, if you talk to people, like you said, most people think oh, salt so bad. I mean, I think it's been a bad PR campaign to make people so fearful of salt.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

I can disprove that two seconds. Here's what happens. The exchange of every cell causes sodium potassium pump. Salt�s not bad, it�s used for every exchange, every cell and body, including brain tissue do big toe. And what happens is your election you're actually active your nerves to remember they're called electrolytes to decrease electricity. But people what they do is if you are so potassium deficient, salt does not move all the cells passionately when there's not that electrical currents happening. So therefore, salt stays inside itself, which now attracts water and then you get a puffy high blood pressure, things like that was not because of salt is because you're actually deficient. Other electrolytes. So, this concept of salt�s bad is ridiculous. Actually, people don't eat enough salt usually.

Lisa Beres

Yeah, that's interesting. Wow. Whoa, okay, guys, I hope you learned a lot today. I did. I do. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Flynn. This was amazing. We appreciate you being here so much, and friends, but using simple ways to overcome stress and its effects, this can help you live out your priorities. Not only will you feel better, physically and mentally, you'll actually feel good about what you've done. And your big toe will be very, very happy.

Dr. Patrick Flynn

Perfect, make big toes great again.

Lisa Beres

Shout out to the big toes of Americans. Right?

Ron Beres

So, hop on over to www.DrPatrick Flynn.com And that's Flynn with two ends right now and learn more. Or you can also find a wellness way health restoration clinic near you by visiting www.thewellnessway.com

Lisa Beres

Whooo. Thank you, Dr. Flynn, and thank you for listening. Please head to www.RonandLisa.com/Podcast for all of the show notes and the links that we discussed today. And be sure to subscribe to Healthy Home Hacks. See you on the next episode. Until then, stay healthy.

Ron Beres

Stay healthy. Bye, everyone.

Lisa Beres

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