In this episode of Healthy Home Hacks, CEO of Earth FX Inc., a research and development company, Clinton Ober, will reveal a surprising healing modality that’s right under your feet, grounding or earthing. After a successful career in the cable industry, Clint discovered grounding wasn’t just beneficial for wires. Clint created Earthing.com after experiencing firsthand the health benefits of connecting to Mother Earth.
Clint explains how to properly connect to the earth’s natural electrify field, the surprising health benefits of walking barefoot, and how we’ve lost our connection to these natural energies. He’ll share which materials are and are not conductive and how to benefit from this safe and natural remedy to reduce pain and inflammation – even if you can’t get outside to walk barefoot each day.
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How would you like to improve your health and keep your family safe? You're listening to the healthy home hacks podcast where we firmly believe enjoying optimal health shouldn't be a luxury. healthy home authorities and husband and wife team Ron and Lisa will help you create a home environment that will level up your health. It's time to hear from the experts. listen in on honest conversations and gain the best tips and advice. If you're ready to dive in and improve your well-being and increase your energy, you're in the right place. All right, here are your hosts, Building Biologists, authors, media darlings, vicarious vegans and avocado aficionados, Ron and Lisa Beres.
Lisa Beres
I'm not sure if Walmart prices are rolling back. But I know here in California and other states across the country stay at home orders shirt our more time at home means more exposure to hidden toxins that permeate your indoor air, your drinking and bathing water, your bedding, and even something called electromagnetic pollution from wireless devices. Be sure to take our online free seven-day healthy home challenge to learn how to stay safe, protect your loved ones and improve your health today that I mentioned it's free. Plus, you get a really cool Bonus Gift called the Stay Safe at Home checklist just for completing the entire week. Visit Bit.ly/thehealthyathomechallenge. Now you and your family's health depend on it. Hey guys, so thank you for joining us today we have a very special guest with us who will be discussing a healthy modality that you may or may not have ever heard of before earthing or grounding. Our guest today is Clinton over I don't know if he remembers meeting us briefly at the movie premiere of The earthing Movie by Josh and Rebecca Tickell in Hollywood last year or not. And if you haven't seen this movie yet, please run don't walk barefoot, of course to watch it.
Ron Beres
Yeah, that movie is a must-see incredible film. Clint, you did an amazing job there. And in fact, I want to introduce you. I wanted the audience to understand your background and where you come from. So, Clinton Ober is the CEO of Earth FX Inc, our research and development company. It's located in Palm Springs, California, and he first started grounding when installing cable TV systems in Billings, Montana in the early 1960s. A decade later, he formed telecom Corporation and built it into the largest provider of cable installation services in the USA. This company specialized in proper grounding of cable installations for safety and for TV signal stability. In the 1980s, he turned his attention to developing computer industry and partnered with McGraw Hill to distribute live digital news services via cable to PCs, and this led to the development of the first cable modem and an increased awareness of a need for proper system grounding. And following a health challenge in 1995, Clint retired, and he embarked on a personal journey, looking for a higher purpose in life. And during his travels, Clint noticed people wearing plastic and rubber soled shoes that insulated the body from the earth. And he wondered if no longer being naturally grounded, could affect us. The question led to an experiment that suggested grounding alone, reduced chronic pain and improved sleep. Thereafter, he'd adopt a working hypothesis, Earth grounding the human body normalizes functioning of all bodily systems. So, over the past 20 years, he has supported a host of research studies, like the earth Institute, that collectively demonstrate that grounding alone reduces inflammation, and promotes normal functioning of all body systems.
Ron Beres
Welcome to the show. Welcome.
Clint Ober
Well, thank you so much for inviting me and spending time visiting with me and helping to hopefully share some of this information with your followers and your family.
Ron Beres
Well, Clint, you are you are the Pioneer You are the legend in this industry. What exactly is earthing? If anyone can describe it?
Clint Ober
All right, well, first of all, a little science lesson the earth itself has a negative charge meaning the word negative meaning no charge. And so when you and it's an electrical phenomena, so when you put your bare feet on the earth, and to give some reference to that, throughout all time, we were always barefoot, or we always wear leather soled shoe, or we were always, you know, in living in nature, and touching there touching live things. But anyhow, in the 1960s about we invented polymers and we started making that rubber soled shoes, and the conductive flooring and all of these creature comforts. And so, when you when the human body stands on the earth itself, then your body will become negatively charged like the earth, meaning it will reduce any charge in the body. So anyhow, then, when we started wearing these rubber soled shoes and everything, then we, we lost our natural ground, we lost this connection with the earth, and now our bodies are more positively charged. And we have, and the inflammation began to manifest in the 1960s, like in diabetes, autism, lupus, MS, all of these health disorders, and they've been on an exponential curve for the last 30 years is now 60 years. And so anyhow, I am answering the question here, basically, yeah. When you stand on the earth, your body is negatively charged. So, inflammation is a positive charge. So, what we spent the last 20 years is rounding people to the earth to validate the effects of grounding the body. And what we learned was is you can't have inflammation on a grounded body.
Ron Beres
Wow, quick question. Is that similar to like getting negative ions from the ocean?
Clint Ober
Yeah. And ion is a is a molecule that hasn't, you know, electrons and so on, but it's more of a molecule. But on sort of more beach, they float around the shells of the ions and so on. Yeah, they're all similar. Yes. Yes, sir. Also, yes.
Lisa Beres
And negative. And I know some people listening when you say, you know, it's, we actually want the negative ions, the negative ions are positive, the positive ions are negative.
Clint Ober
Yeah, think of it this way. You want the negative no charge ones, right?
Lisa Beres
Yeah, exactly. Okay. So, I don't even know if you know, our background. But I got severely ill, over 15 years ago, when I moved into a newly remodeled home. And I was exposed to all this off gassing of these toxic chemicals. Yes. And I went through, I dove deep into a healing journey. And at that time, I was familiar with earthing grounding, because I looked into everything natural. So, I had come across that and we had purchased a grounding pad. And I didn't recall having issues when I first started using it. But then we moved about 11 years ago, into a new home and I ceased to put the grounding pad back on the bed just got lost kind of in the cast of the move. So, when I finally did add it back, I noticed a really strange and uncomfortable tingling sensation through my entire body. And I was totally unaware of what this was. And it made me really nervous. And so, wash the pad because these are washable. And Clint�s going to tell you more about these later, we're going to talk about what I'm talking about what this pad is, I washed the pad, I wrapped it back up. And I started. So, I went through this process a few more times, because I knew the grounding pad had worked for me. But I was like, why am I having these strange sensations. So later, we noticed running on both notice our sleeping patterns in this house just really wasn't good. We were waking up tired tossing and turning all night. And so, we had made some additional changes to our bedroom by removing a few unknown EMF sources, such as an electric clock that we have near the head of our bed. And then I decided after that I'm going to try the pad one more time, and voila, the tingling had ceased, and I was able to sleep incredible. So, is this normal? Clint, do you hear this? And if so, what do you recommend for people who are using a grounding pad and I might have jumped into that really quickly. But we'll get into what that is.
Clint Ober
That's fine. That's the real story right there. You know, first of all, I need to share with you a couple things one, over the last 20 years, there's probably over a million people that are on these grounding, matching, whatever now. And they're mostly 35 to 55-year-old women. And these women's their health is compromised on some basis. And they're also taking care of their mom whose health is compromised, and they're taking care of their kids and occasionally their husbands.
Clint Ober
You know, it's just, it's just that, for instance, you know, 90% of the business to a practitioner or female. Yeah. Oh, really?
Ron Beres
What are you saying the husbands don't listen?
Clint Ober
No, I'm saying that. No husband doesn't go to a doctor until he has his first heart attack generally. Yeah,
Lisa Beres
That's so true.
Clint Ober
But the women are more the caregivers in the family and they kind of take care of the husbands to take care of everybody. And I'm not putting guys down. You know, guys are just slow learners. It took me 20 years to get this thing out. Yeah.
Lisa Beres
And they're very bad at like, even in an emergency situation. like going to the hospital. I hear that story all the time. Like, Oh, no, no, I'm fine. I'll tough it out. And then that can make things so bad. Maybe you can give an overview of what the pads are. We're going to get really into this in a little bit. But you know, is this normal for someone who starts to do the earthing? Yes, in practice this this tingling? Like it made me scared.
Clint Ober
I thought something was wrong. It's going to take me a little a few minutes to explain this for you. Yeah. Okay. So basically, what happens is your body is like a capacitor, meaning it's like a little battery. And the earth is a big battery, and just being charged by the sun. So, when you put your feet on the earth, then your body charges up and equalizes with the earth, and your battery. But as the product, I mean, if you are very short on electrons, if you haven't been grounding for a long period of time, or if your health is compromised, and you have inflammation in your body, then you will feel the tingling more so than not, but it should dissipate after about 15 minutes, that's after the body equalizes a little bit. So, this is a phenomenon that goes on with several people. And, and people who have like limes and various other situations where their health is extremely compromised. Well, the first thing that happens when you ground is your blood thins out and normalizes the blood viscosity. Because the little red blood cells which are electrical, they equalize with the earth and become more negatively charged. And when they're negative, it's like two little negative magnets, you put them together and they push each other apart. Now the blood can get in there. And for me, it normalizes its thickness, I mean, it becomes thinner. Now I can get in and out of the capillaries clean up the, you know, the spirochaetes in the ends of the capillaries that are trapped down there for you have poor circulation. And so, you end up having sometimes even a prune feeling, because of the die off of the spirochaetes. But there's all kinds of phenomena, everybody's different. So, there's no one thing for everybody. But the sensations are different. But a lot of it has to do with your living environment. And like you were mentioning, if you have a lot of VOCs in the environment, that's going to affect if you have an extreme amount of electric fields, it's like 99% of the people or let's say, 90 some percent of the people have are not affected by electric fields at all. And there's a reason for it. And that's because they're the people who do have exhaust I mean, who are sensitive to electric fields and static electricity and sometimes touch touching fabrics, or wind or noise or whatever. Their adrenals are exhausted.
Lisa Beres
That's what I had. Yeah, adrenal burnout. So many people. Women too, I think because you know, women are the juggle, I mean, we all juggle a lot today we're stressed
Ron Beres
About their husbands least.
Clint Ober
But I grew up in Montana. And you know, we had cows, cattle, I sat on a horse and babysit cows all day and, and you're looking for cows that are not like, I mean, they're balling or the glassy eyed, something's wrong with him. So, you take them out of the herd. And then you go check the pasture and make sure the pasture is clean and pristine. Because if you take care of the pasture, the cows will be healthy. If you don't take care of the pasture, then the cows get sick, you call the bad call the bank and say, Hey, we're out of here. But while I was doing that, oftentimes, I would be sitting there sometimes in and the field is full of jackrabbits. Some years, and whenever there's jackrabbits, there's coyotes. And so, the coyotes are, you know, the rat, the rabbits are sitting there eating grass like normal, just like all of us, we're just living our lives. And all of a sudden, the coyote sneaks up, and the rabbit senses the cortisol skyrockets, the years go up, the coyote jumps, the rabbit springs, and it will zigzag back and forth across the pasture. And 90% of the time, their coyote will run out of energy, he'll just stop dead in his tracks lay down, and he'll be there panting.
Lisa Beres
I've never witnessed that.
Clint Ober
But the rabbit will go just a little bit further. And when the rabbit many, it'll stop, and it'll be sitting there and you can see it. And so, this little thing, they're just quivering, because their life has just been threatened. Right? But then all of a sudden, they'll have this big shake, and then they go back to eating grass like nothing ever happened. So, I didn't know any of this at the time. But over the years, I've been able to put this together with specialists to help some other researchers. But anyhow, so what happens is cortisol creates a lot of adrenaline, a lot of you know, it's your sympathetic nervous system is on this heightened sort of cortisol, it's extreme. And so, after the chase, you have to discharge that otherwise, the cortisol will create like in women anxiety, irritability, or depression, and it goes into if you don't discharge it grounded out ground out of the trauma of the chase. So, I the reason I tell that story is all yours because the average A woman who has children, husband lives in a house. That's it, you manage all of this, I mean, her life is full of coyotes, the kids can be.
Lisa Beres
A lot of mothers would agree with that, wow.
Clint Ober
The kids have all these, you know, things that they need, and you are in a panic to get all of these things done on time. And so your cortisol becomes elevated, you become a very sensitive, you're more sensitive to commerce, and, but then you get your husband after work, get kids to school, whatever, then you may have to go to work yourself, or you get into traffic or whatever it is. But there's the world is full of coyotes. Yeah, things that spike, the sympathetic nervous system. Mm hmm. And if you stay in a highly elevated sympathetic state for too long, then the adrenals, which usually dampen the effect of the sympathetic, mm hmm, you know, the parasympathetic nervous system, then it becomes exhausted, then the sympathetic overdrives. And now you're full of cortisol, you're, and that creates pain, that creates irritability, that creates more frustration, more stress, and so submission, vicious cycle, and if it goes on too long, it can, you know, creates a lot of inflammation in the body, then your immune system is busy, trying to put fire of inflammation out that itself is creating because of the fact that it's not grounded. And then this creates a fire in the body, and then eventually, your health becomes compromised, or a major health disorder manifest. But anyhow, so basically, we have to ground out. In nature, we were grounded 24, seven, you know, throughout all time, and today, we barely have ever touched the ground. So, our bodies become, you know, full of inflammation, our body, you know, exhausted and so it interferes with and compromises our normal health.
Ron Beres
We want to be the jackrabbit; we want to avoid the coyotes. We want to experience these earthing benefits. Uh huh. How can someone experience the earthing benefits?
Clint Ober
First of all, it's very simple in you know, over the years, we produce them, I imagine around 24-25, peer reviewed published studies in the objective of what we were trying to do. And again, I had a background in grounding, and, but I knew nothing about biology. So, I incorporated or brought in all of these researchers and scientists and whatever. And so basically, what we want to identify is, and the reason we did this is because the first time I ever grounded myself or grounded any of my people, I slept better. But more importantly, anybody who had pain, chronic burning pain, like inflammatory pain, you could put an electrode patch on the ground and kill the earth. And in 510 minutes, the pain is 1%. Gone, they could have had it for 20 years. So, the point is, you can't have inflammation in a grounded body. inflammation is caused from you have a pathogen in your body, you have a damaged cell, and the immune system sends over a neutrophil. The neutrophil, which is a white blood cell, wraps around the pathogen and encapsulates it and releases reactive oxygen species. And if that rips the electrons away from the pathogens and destroys them. So that's how the immune system works. And but the problem is, is throughout all time, the immune system of the body was always grounded. And you always had this negative, this reservoir of negative charge. So, if there were any remaining radicals, left over from the immune response, they were automatically neutralized by Earth. free electrons, earth�s ground and when we live in an environment where we don't have access to these electrons, then these radicals will rip electrons from nearby cells and damage them. They then send the cell a message to the immune system, saying, hey, something's still here getting me send another neutrophil. So, you end up with the chain reaction. And that's the fire of inflammation. That is the word inflammation is body on fire in plain.
Lisa Beres
It is the root of all illness, right? Yes, it is. So yeah. And then blame society. I mean, so many people have inflammation and don't know because I think when you hear the word inflammation, you think, Oh, your skin's going to be red and burning or something. But inflammation is like a dis dissonance, I guess in your body, right? It's, it's, it's stress to your body. So, you don't always see it. You don't physically see the inflammation.
Clint Ober
It can sometimes if you have pain in your body, and this year, like Dr. Stephen Sinatra came along and helped out in the early days, he said, Clyde, when I first was working on the CCS clinic, he said you need to be researching information. We knew that pain went away, but we knew nothing about inflammation. He said you need to be searching inflammation because you cannot have pain in the body unless you have inflammation first. So, anybody who has any kind of pain in their body, they have some kind of inflammation going on. Mm hmm. But the point is, but the point of it is I just make one more little small point and then we'll go to the product thing, but the point is, once this inflammation cascade starts in the body, inflammation is not a normal term, or healthy. In throughout time, throughout all history, we've never had the word used the word inflammation. For instance, animals in the wild, do not experience inflammation. They do not have cancer, they do not have cardiovascular disease, autism, lupus, or anything. But animals who live indoors with their owners, they all manifest similar health disorders to their owners, and 50% of animals from cancer. Domestic, domestic, domestic animals.
Lisa Beres
Clint, is that because the animals aren't getting that grounding? Or is that because they're picking up on the stress of the household?
Clint Ober
Don't be animals outdoors are grounded all the time grounded all the time. Yeah, animals indoors, or they're lying on a on a fluffy couch full of static electricity.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, and let's not even mention their horrible pet food. I've written some articles on that.
Clint Ober
It's all it's all of the above. Yeah. But you know, you see, it's living apart from nature or living out of what we now know to be part of nature. And so anyhow, once this inflammation gets underway in the body, then the immune system is forever trying to put this fire out. But by trying to put it down because it doesn't have enough redox potential or enough free electrons, it's actually creating more fire. It's like burning along. So, the key to it is you have to add electrons to the body, negative electrons in order for the body to put out the fire. For instance, if you have pain in your body from arthritis, or MS or anything else, you put a patch on it, the pain stops. So, what you're doing is you're flooding the body with free electron that puts out the fire. So, you can have MS winter grounded. You know how you can only have one after you take up you go back to living if you live, if you live grounded your whole life. As if you're having cancer are nil, the odds of you are having any autoimmune disease is nil. Because the word autoimmune means the immune system is just functioning.
Clint Ober
Something's interfering with the immune system's ability to maintain health.
Lisa Beres
So, Clint the patches so we can get into like the products, we use a pad and for anyone who's not visited earthing calm, which is Clint�s website, where he offers a plethora of solutions, including pads for under I'm barefoot right now, but I'm at my desk. But there are because this is a zoom call. And we're, we're at stay at home order. So, we're doing this from home, and I'm barefoot. But basically, there's pads that you could put under your desk, we have a, it's like a third of a sheet size that was on the bottom of your bed, I want to kind of give a visual to people, it lays over your fitted sheet. And it plugs into the grounding part of your outlet. So, it has a cord it's plugged in. But there's absolutely no electricity. It's literally just tapping into the grounding of the earth. So, I know that you write you say people say, Oh, can I leave that on all the time? Yeah, you can leave it you can leave the grounding pad on all the time. It's not costing any money, because it's just accessing that ground. So, for us run and I don't walk barefoot as much as we would like to, we don't have an actual backyard. We live in California. We haven't we have a
Ron Beres
Nice little patio.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, out of the beach. But to be honest, we're not really good about walking barefoot enough. So, we use that grounding pad. We sleep on that. And now every night, it's amazing. I have noticed a huge difference in like just the puffiness, I think the puffiness in the face when you wake up sometimes, you know get that look like oh, I've noticed that for me. That's inflammation. That's inflammation. And Brian had had gout. He had brought his gout in his family. And that's been something he had really severely and over the years we're vegan now through just changing his diet. That's even the grounding pad like Ron's virtually he's met at medication free now. And he was taking really high doses of medication for that before and I want to explain to because I know the conductive materials. So, what is conductive? You talked about the rubber or the rubber soles or not, but the conductive materials would be grass, sand, dirt and concrete. Is there anything else so we want to get our feet on those particular surfaces?
Clint Ober
Correct. Those surfaces are the ones that are naturally grounded. Okay, anything other than that would be artificially grounded meaning that artificially meaning you have they have grounded carpets that they use in clean rooms, 911 centers and mission critical centers are because you can't have any static union surgical centers you have grounded floors. But you can have a grounded floor. But anyhow in our research what we did, and this will help with the product thing is when we were doing the research we did if we weren't have no interest whatsoever, or no idea that we would ever be in the business of Providing products that was not our mission, our mission was to understand earthing, or understand the effects of grounding. But anyhow, so in order to ground people, we had to make up what we call ground planes or grounding mats, pads, and connect them to a ground and then have people sleep on sit on whatever lay on them, and or patches in order to do the measurements for the clinical studies. And in the process of doing that many of the people in the early days, especially the small pads that were like, one foot wide by two or three feet long, everybody wanted them after the studies the subjects and a lot of the subjects wanted them for their relatives and so on. So, we accidentally started developing these products. So anyhow, wow, in the in the process of doing that, we started out with carbon fiber materials and we would bond them to felt pads carbon is an electrically conductive material. And then we connected to a wire and connected to the ground. So when you lay on it, I mean yes at Earth or potential as soon as you lay on the electrical charge of the earth equalizes with the pad or the pad equalizes with that charge, then when you lay on your body is conductive, then you become negatively charged, you become grounded. So, in the process, we had to develop these products in a way that people could sleep on them. And 24 hours a day, I mean, not 24 hours a day, but eight hours, that some people need eight hours.
Clint Ober
So anyhow, it's so we've spent over the last 20 years also trying to evolve or develop a family of products that are first of all effective after what they do. Second, they're safe. And then three, they have to be affordable for people. And, and I work with, you know, like the state of California, their health sciences and so on. And I remember talking to them one day, and they said, we totally understand what you're doing. We only caution you on one thing, when you go out and start teaching this to the people, you need to have two things one, a no cost solution, and a low-cost solution, because this is something that affects everybody. And I said, well, the no cost is easy. We just get him to go outdoors, take shoes, with their feet on the concrete or on the ground or the grass. And just notice what happens if they do that twice a day. It'll change their life. I guarantee anybody how many minutes for 30 minutes? Yeah, I mean, that's if you're younger, and your health is not very compromised. If your health is very compromised, then you need to get grounded. And stay grounded until you get well. That means sleep grounded, sit grounded, just stay grounded as much as you can. So anyhow, we ended up starting coming out with mats, then we came for the bed, we recognized early on that the most important thing we could do. Because you can't ground people during the day very easy. They're moving, they're traveling, they're whatever. And so, we figured well, the best thing we can do is develop something they could sleep on. And that's where the math came from. And just recently, and we're just now in the final stages of because our company is a research and development company. We've always our, our business is doing research and development. But now we're in the business of these passive stuff. But anyhow, so here's commerce.
And so anyhow, we have developed a family of sleep products, they're carbon, and they're a mat the size of the bed or half the size of the bed, you put them under your sheet. They're 100% conductive, where the silver ones were only 5% conductive, and the silver would become oxidized after time.
Lisa Beres
I was going to ask that do they do they wear off after a while? Yeah, the silver after white washing because these are washable? They they're Genet? Well, the one I have as thin as a sheet. Yes, you can just throw it in the washer.
Clint Ober
Yeah, they're, they're washable, but the problem is, is the salts I mean the body when you perspire, then the salts from your body will oxidize the silver. And then eventually it loses conductivity. If you're wash it and the more often you wash it, the better. And sometimes they'll last up to a year two years. That's every night using them. Sometimes they won't last 30 days if somebody sweats a lot. So, we had to move away from that over the years.
Lisa Beres
Somebody needs a new earthing pad. Right.
Clint Ober
Well get ahold of Kylie afterwards and get you a sample. I think right? But anyhow we have the now we have pillow covers, you know the pillow cover not to pillowcase the cover that goes over your pillow. It's a carbon cover, and you've put it on separate up, plug it in, and then put your pillowcase on top and lay down and go to sleep is that's one of the more popular products right now.
Lisa Beres
Wow. So, it doesn't matter, Clint. If it's coming through your feet or through your face, like you're still getting the benefits?
Clint Ober
Your body is conductive. So, it will equalize. For me. Yes, the feet in the hands are the most conductive meaning in nature, that's those are our grandpa ground paws, I guess. But we were always you know, where our bare feet or our hands touching live things. And so, throughout time, we were grounded, we're always easily grounded. But when you're lying down, you have on a large ground plane, a huge ground plane like a sleeping mat, then you've got to you've got two things going on one, your body is absorbing the electrons from the earth that are coming through the pad. But also, the earth itself has resonant resonating rhythms and frequencies. So, at night, they're low, and during the noon, they're high. So, but they have to do with regulating your hormone cascades cortisol at night, and things like that. So, you're lying on the pad, your way quiets the nervous system and discharges the inflammation. And then when the body will can heal and return to normal.
Lisa Beres
That's amazing. I and it's come through it sounds like this carbon material is thicker, so it probably even as like a nice little almost padding.
Clint Ober
Your soul is a little thicker. Maybe there's one of them. But the pillowcases, they're very thin. Okay, so it's not, no, it's not thick or anything like that. But the main thing is it works. So now we have a product that we know unequivocally. Five years from now it's going to be working perfectly. Where we never had these products actually less costly than the silver for
Lisa Beres
the patches that you talked about. For the hands someone has if someone's having arthritis or pain in their arms. Now that would be a patch, but it's grounded. It's connected to the ground, not like a plug into the outlet.
Clint Ober
It's got a coil cord.
Lisa Beres
Okay, so you could actually wear that while you're typing on your computer. Yes. Okay. Well, that's really so you have a visual, you guys, it's, it's a cord. And then when you buy the product, you get a little device that plugs into your outlet. Yeah. And then the cord plugs into that. So that all comes like as a package set, just so you kind of get a visual of what this looks like.
Ron Beres
Because I'm curious, can these earthing products can actually protect against cell phone frequencies as well, if you're grounded with the earth?
Clint Ober
Well, any of the low frequencies, you know, like the 60 hertz, and all of these things. So, once you connect to the earth, then you are electrically one in the same as the earth.
Clint Ober
okay. So, and that's the way we've always been. So, all living things, trees, and all these things that are electrically connected to the earth. So, they are naturally protected from EMF, it's like trees underneath power lines, that leaves you're fine, the roots are fine, you know, and so on. The animals that are grounded outdoors, they can sleep under power lines, it doesn't affect them, and so on. When you are not grounded, then your body is an antenna. And it attracts these emfs and so on. And you can actually measure the charges on the body. But again, I have to be really careful with that. Now, I want to fill in the blank there. But to answer your question, most of these things don't penetrate the skin, so they're not going to really do any harm to the body. What they are going to do more than anything else is if you are ungrounded, then your body being an antenna, the hair on your body is an antenna and sometimes it'll stimulate sympathetic nervous system, which, you know, helps to contribute to that chronically elevated sympathetic state. Okay,
Ron Beres
The coyotes, you're mentioning the coyotes.
Clint Ober
So anyhow, the, the cell phones, the biggest problem, everybody's worried about cell towers, a cell tower can transmit a signal that your phone can receive, the more and that's you know, that's it's there, it's real. And it's not going to change that sort of world. And it's coming fast. But on the other hand, the real problem if you're concerned about cell phones, and 5g and all this kind of thing, that the cell phone in your hand is the problem. The sun cell phone on your ear, because it has to put out a signal that can actually reach that tower. So, and all day long, you're staying in contact so there's noise going back and forth. So, and people are not going to give up their cell phones. So, the thing you have to do is be prudent in how you use them. Use the earbuds or the earphones or whatever. Use the speakerphone all the time.
Lisa Beres
Air tube headsets are really great too. You don't want to use the Bluetooth which, you know, people walk around with, like an antenna attached to their head and I, I see them at the gym like that. And I'm like, do you understand that? It's like one part you're trying to be healthy, but you're zapping your body.
Clint Ober
I think we have to go back to the people who have exhausted adrenals are very sensitive to these frequencies and signals or more for sensitive people who your adrenals are not exhausted, doesn't bother them.
Lisa Beres
When I had my healing journey, I had major burnout because I was you know, constantly and I, I was a career woman traveling all over the country, I was always on a plane always packing always go, go, go, go go go. And boy, triple A, as a triple A. And man, it came crashing down. Like when you when you put your body under that and you constantly put your body under that kind of stress. And our society encourages that, you know, busy, the glorification of busy. And you know, I mean, I was determined my worth by my checklist and how much in a day and, you know, I was definitely drinking coffee and getting through my day. And I know so many people can listen and can relate to that. But let me tell you, when that comes crashing down, and you lose that your energy is zapped, and I it's no fun. And you know, earthing obviously, I mean, would you say it could heal that like adrenal burnout?
Clint Ober
Well, yeah, the thing that if you have any kind of a health disorder, or a challenge, any kind of a health challenge or health is compromised, even if you have cancer doesn't matter what it is, the reason that exists, is because your immune system is compromised. Because if your immune system healthy, you won't have any of these modern health disorders, these degenerative type of health disorders. So always think that something is compromising the immune system. So, what you have to do, I mean, something you're doing or something in your environment, and that's what you specialize in. And, and so what you have to do is you have to remove the things that you're doing that interfere with your immune systems health, or you have to remove the things in your environment, and then your immune system will restore itself, restore the adrenals, and it will restore the body to normal. That's the only thing that the immune system knows to do. And that's what it does. So, it isn't taking all these things. Sometimes it's really about putting ourselves back in nature in our most natural state as possible. Now we know that part of that's grounded. So, its grounding is you have to have grounding. You have to have sunlight. We live in homes today where there's no sunlight, and our vitamin D is compromised. So, vitamin DS some of my time outdoors in the sunlight with your bare feet on the earth is essential, then you have to have, I believe, you know, I'm more of a naturalist. But you know, spring water, you know, that has normal mineral content. Yeah, right.
Lisa Beres
Exactly.
Clint Ober
I mean, you want to eat food as close to you as possible.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, we did a raw we almost went raw. We did a food cleanse for a couple weeks. And well, we went for our first Rob meal. And we went to work out matter of the day that day or the next day, and I was just so energized. I wasn't even tired after my workout. And I said, this is crazy. We went back to the restaurant, the restaurant and I we met the chef and I was telling her because she had so much energy and she looked at me she goes yeah, that's the whole point of raw is the whole reason people do the raw food diet because you know, it's using the enzymes from the food instead of your body it depleting your body of that to break all the food down. And it's basically giving you all this extra energy.
Ron Beres
I was always hungry.
Lisa Beres
There are no carbs really. I mean.
Clint Ober
Come into you normalize. Everything normalizes Yeah, reading electrons. You're eating energy,
Lisa Beres
Like living food, right? A raw food, hundred percent diet is difficult.
Clint Ober
I think for most people. I said, as close as possible.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, exactly. I say we do that. We have a salad every single day and you know, lots of raw veggies. But going back to so hey, if you're listening and you're in New York City, or you're in a city where you don't have a beach and you can't walk on the sand, or maybe you don't even have grass nearby, you can actually walk on concrete. Is that right? Clint? Yes. concrete. It's so because concrete is conductive. Like it's so weird. So, you could walk on your sidewalk outside barefoot. for half an hour, you get some strange looks from your neighbors and go for glass. Yeah. Like cut for dirt. But that would that can restore you just by the concrete. I always thought concrete always shocks me. So, what about concrete floors in your home? Would that do the same thing?
Clint Ober
Yeah, if you have, you know, a lot of the homeless people that we work with, we recommend that they when they're building to polish the concrete and put a nice stain on it and put a water-based sealer on it. Perfect ground. So, you're just like walking barefoot all day long. Yeah. You're still going to know What is not conductive?
Lisa Beres
What is not conductive? I know what feels so good on your feet I love wood floors but yeah, it's not conductive so nor is asphalt and nor is of course vinyl. I mean if you have vinyl in your house, get rid of it. It's bad and millions of ways not just because it's not conductive but obviously vinyl off gases VOC�s into the air and phthalates. Vinyl is very high in phthalates it's because that's the chemical that softens the plastic which is an endocrine disruptor so you don't want vinyl anything. But so, going back today we're living in the time of Coronavirus, COVID-19. And I had read one of your posts Clint on Facebook actually, kind of early in this pandemic where you talked about the cytokine storm that happens with COVID patients and you had talked about earthing Can you bring that full circle and kind of give us a little overview of how that works?
Clint Ober
Well I can tell you that in our studies, and over the years, we have grounded a lot of people, we've come across a lot of people with like COPD and or you know, colds or pneumonias and whatever. And in in many of these cases, what I what I did was take an electrode patch to them, the kit comes with two of them. But anyhow, you put one on the top of each one, and then go ahead and plug them in. So basically, read and then all of a sudden, within a few minutes, I can breathe. And so, it's like asthma or anything else, when you breathe the air in, then your immune system is forever cleaning, or reducing the pathogens or, you know, cleaning and maintaining the lungs in a healthy state. So, if all of a sudden you breathe in something that is toxic to the body, then the immune system has to go in and start cleaning up the damage or the whatever is going on. And in the process. Sometimes, if you don't have enough ground, if your body is on negative, then as these white blood cells release cytokines or whatever, then they will you know they oxidize in the electrons away from the pathogen, and in some cases, damaged tissue. And then if you don't have enough ground on any of these excess cytokines, they will damage an adjacent cell, then the immune system sends more. And so that's what creates this what they call your cytokines the one the only thing you have to do to stop it as far as my experience, and I have 20 years of experience and observations is your take ground the body put the patches on the top of the one closest to where this cytokine storm is. And then what it does is it dampens the immediate floods the body with free electrons negative charge negative up your body's becoming negative. And then that damping there reduces the excess cytokine or the excess reactive oxygen species in the lungs that calms everything down dampness. And then healing and healing can take place. So COVID is something that's really challenge right now. I think it's all related. But I can't speak to it. Exactly. We are doing a little bit of research with it within in New Orleans in a couple places. But we don't have the studies back so we can't really talk about it. But I can tell you in general, if you have any kind of a respiratory situation where like asthma, I mean asthma if you want to just go outdoors and barefoot on the earth or jump in a swimming pool it stops immediately.
Lisa Beres
It's the same fall right because you get because the water is water. Water Yeah. So that even taking a bath right even just getting a bath. Yes, you are grounded right you're grounded in it?
Clint Ober
As long as you have cold water pipes coming into what you do with you know the cold, but the drains and the newer ones may have plastic but the older homes Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
So, the pipes, right?
Clint Ober
Yes. If you have metal grounded Yes.
Lisa Beres
I think we they replaced our pipes and I think they're those PEX. Is that the name of it? I think that's what it's called a familiar with those. They are kind of a I was so upset about it. But the old the pipes were bursting in people's homes. The metal pipe was a problem. So, they use this. I think it's called PEX and it is unfortunately synthetic material was very upset about it. I read a lot about it. They say it's not as bad as you know, PVC obviously not as bad as PVC or anything but so you have to have the metal pipes. Otherwise you're not grounded in the bathtub. Right? Right. Okay, but in the ocean. And would you need salt water, or does it have to be? No, it doesn't have to be a saltwater pool. It could be just a regular pool.
Clint Ober
Yeah, just regular pool.
Lisa Beres
Okay, so yes. Wow. So have they use this grounding on COVID patients that you're aware of, or even in hospitals in general is are there hospitals around the country that are actually using this?
Clint Ober
Yeah, the hospitals and everybody out there are so mean you have to follow protocol because there is so much activity, everybody has to know what everybody's doing. And everybody has to do the same thing. So, there can be any changes. So, there's not much experimentation. And most of the experimentation is off premise, taking care of people who are not in the hospital. And we can't give anybody you know, a, I can't come out and say just do this, you're going to, all I can say is get grounded is certainly going to help because a lot of the cobia is, if your immune system is strong, and you are healthy, then your body can handle most of these viruses. And most anything that comes along colds, people who are healthy, have less colds, people who are sick, have more colds, and just use common sense. So, but it's about your immune system. It's not about what grounding does for Cobra is really about what grounding does is it puts out the fire of inflammation in your body, the immune system can recover, and then it can go and do what it's supposed to function. Normally, rather than, you know, you know, what we call an autoimmune disease autoimmune disorder. disorder means the immune system can't function like it's supposed to. Something's interfering with it. So that's what we're talking about, fix it, and then your immune system will do its best, because 90% of the people I guess, 99% of people that have COVID, they recover, they survive. But anyhow, so the people whose health is compromised, whose immune systems are compromised, they are the ones that are suffering and, in the hospitals, and your immune system can't manage the COVID.
Ron Beres
Right? Well, Clint, we have a lot of electro hypersensitive people that come to us for information. Can they ground themselves the same way?
Clint Ober
Well, when you say electrosensitive, that's what we're talking about. He has, they have their son, they're not electrosensitive. They have exhausted adrenals. Okay, and I and I can only say that because I have 20 years of observation with fibromyalgia, and lupus and all these things. And everybody's, you know, talking about electro sensitivity, but that's a, that's a secondary, it's a secondary thing to exhausted adrenal. So, once you would normally normalize your adrenals, then your sympathetic is doing this. They'll do what it's supposed to do. It'll be sensitive. Your parasympathetic will modulate these things, so that you don't have this overdriving sympathetic, which creates the sensitivity.
Lisa Beres
Okay, did you heal yourself completely from lupus and Fibromyalgia through earthing and grounding?
Clint Ober
No, I never had any of those. I when I when I got into grounding. 20 years ago, I just asked the question, but I was at that time I was 54. I said, I turned 76. yesterday.
Ron Beres
Ah, you sound good. For those who aren't saying what he is thrive, reviving. And he is grounded.
Clint Ober
But anyhow, so but at that at 50 years old, or 54, I had all kinds of aches and pains. The arthritis stuff was starting to show up. And but I was a cowboy. And I was I've skied most of my life. play tennis, I've done everything. I have twisted knees, twisted ankles, back surgery, I've had everything you can imagine. So, when I was, I remember when I was 54. I went outdoors one-time, and I looked up and said, God, why didn't you make my body with so much pain in it? And then it was later I found out he didn't it was me. But anyhow, so it's electric car, just answer the question electro sensitivity is you need to ground out the inflammation in your body and do and focus on restoring your adrenals. And you can do that by reducing the stress in your mind. Because what's causing a lot of these, what's causing a lot of inflammation in your body is it's the stress that you're it's the fight or flight. It's the mental stress, people who have great loss. And we were talking to a lady one time who had Ms. And I asked her I said you weren't born with Ms. And she was like 34? And she says no, it just showed up a couple years ago. And I said what happened to cause it to manifest? And she said, I don't know. And then I was getting things organized for everything. And all of a sudden, she said, you know, that was the year that we lost our home. And, you know, we went into we were on the street and we were whatever and whatever. And so, these things, you know a lot most of it and I've asked many, many people whether it doesn't matter what it is cancer, it doesn't matter what it is. Yeah, happened in your life prior to this manifesting. Wow. And there's always a story No boss. Yeah, a story of great loss or life didn't turn out the way they expected or they were jilted.
Lisa Beres
That's interesting. We go, we go to an integrative Medical Center, and they also have a cancer center as a part of it. And the first thing they do when they have a cancer patient is, they evaluate their the mental, like you just talked about, what was the incident, they do a really thorough kind of frequency analysis. And they do, I think, even not to hypnosis, but kind of where they go back. And they find out what was the, the moments, right that were cause? Yeah, could have even been back in childhood. And maybe the disease manifests years and years later. So, we have a cop on the phone, if you're open to answering some questions, Clint?
Clint Ober
Absolutely.
Lisa Beres
So, Brett, welcome to the show. We heard you have a question for Clint?
Caller, Brett
Thank you for you know, explaining the benefits of earthing to the world. And I watched the movie. And it's very fascinating, by the way, and I had the book as well. And I'm not a nature guy, I don't always go out all the time. So, having your indoor products are definitely a helpful thing for me to have. stay grounded, for example. So, I just want to ask you really quickly about your product that you own your throw your blanket, for example. And I'm curious, like when using a check how much of your body or skin really needs to be exposed to it to get the full benefits, and maybe just be part of your body, more skin the better or what would you say?
Clint Ober
I will say this any amount of grounding is good, anyone to contact, but more is better. And that comes from my background in the communication industry, if you want to quiet the noise in your environment, or if you want to ground, in this case, the body, then you know, the better the more ground the better, right, so the more exposed your skin on your products, the better they're saying. And then there's not necessarily entirely metal contact skin contact is conductive. It's about you know, when you lay on something you Your body is always hydrating, or perspiration is hydrating the material. And then also there's humidity in the air. And so there's always there's a certain amount of electrical conductivity, you know, when you have clothing on, so I'm trying to say, so you don't have to necessarily in contact, but like to throw up your wrapping around yourself with your clothes on, you're going to notice and you're going to feel great, right? Are there are there any parts your body that are like, you know better than others, like, if it's like just exposed to my legs, or my feet or arms, it doesn't matter? Well as the bottom of your feet and the bottom of your hand, the palms of your hands are the most conductive parts of your body. Like if you go outdoors, put your hands and your feet on the ground, and you're going to get the more the most significant result in the shortest period of time. If you just lay down, you'll get the same result may take a few minutes, a few seconds for a few minutes longer. But uh you know, is if you have, for instance, arthritis in the knee or a hip, then you will want to ground that quarter of the body of the leg or the hip or the whatever. And because what you're doing is a shorter path to ground, meaning when you're putting electrons into them are pouring electrons into the body, they get used up, if you run, if you're coming through the feet, then your body is using them up every anywhere and everywhere in the blood, the blood circulates once a minute. And so, it's carrying electrons all over the place, and they get used up. So, you don't necessarily get that you don't put the fire out as fast, you still put the fire over, you just have this a lot quicker. When you put the grounding. Like in this case, if you have an issue, ground as close to the issue as possible, either in the palm of the hand or the bottom of the foot is closest to that. Otherwise, put a patch right on it. Or wrap the throw around your leg or whatever makes you dabbing.
Lisa Beres
If you're having knee pain, wrap that blanket around your knees.
Clint Ober
Yeah, your body.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, you could spot treat basically with this.
Clint Ober
Yes. Okay. Yeah, just do what your body tells you to do. Where the pain is. Yeah.
Lisa Beres
Now, Brett, since you're on the call asked this question too, because you might be interested in this. If you stop grounding, if you stop it, like say bread or anyone listening gets their pad, they use it a couple times, and then they don't use it. Like, are the effects cumulative? Or is this something you really need to keep doing?
Clint Ober
While the effects are cumulative? Because you would every time you ground you put the fire out, you reduce inflammation in the body. And if you're grounded outdoors, living in nature, grounded all the time, you could not have inflammation in the human body. It's not possible. You'll still have the inflammatory cascades, but they are there they are short and they and they unwind naturally. But inflammation is a chronic fire in your body. You cannot have a chronic fire in your body. In nature, it�s not possible.
Lisa Beres
I'm just like, should you continue to do this every day? Yes. Yeah. So, this is something this is like brushing your teeth?
Clint Ober
This needs to be part of your life. So, you if you can, if you get a nice routine going and then ground anytime you possibly can outdoors with your bare feet, so on but it is cumulative. And if you go for a long period of time without grounding, then hit the inflammation will continue to build will start building back up. And then you feel the tingling, the more inflamed you are, the more you'll feel the tingling. If you if you go without grounding for a week you get a lot of people say, Well, I don't feel that energy anymore like I used to. And so, then I said, well just go spend a couple of days on grounded and come back. And then you'll feel the body surgeon charge back up.
Ron Beres
A clip art collar actually has the blanket. How long should he wear this blanket? I know, obviously, more than better, but just to get the effects of positive effects of grounding. Should he be wrapped in this an hour a day, half an hour a day.
Clint Ober
I always tell everybody is if you have pain unique if you if you have pain in your body of any kind. You need to get grounded and stay grounded until it goes away. Because this is inflammation. After can't say can't do it all in one period, then do it routinely until the inflammation goes away. I mean, yeah, and but that's how you know how much grounding you need is you have pain in your body, because you don't have pain in your body when you're not grounded. I'm 76 years old. I don't ram pain in my body. But I've got my feet on the ground, man. And I slept grounded last night. And I have a concrete floor.
Lisa Beres
So yeah, wow. Like a ground. You�re the grounding poster child.
Ron Beres
It�s a good thing when you say you're grounded. Clint. You're grounded.
Clint Ober
I walked my talk. I've got my 5000 steps first 5000 steps in. And I wear either wear conductive shoe or a or I walk barefoot.
Lisa Beres
Wow. So, Brett, if you're still there? Is your is your blanket a throw blanket? Or is it like a blanket? That's a full size that you would put on your bed?
Caller, Brett
I go to throw some of us on, you know, watching TV.
Lisa Beres
But could he just wrap that around like the bottom of his feet every night?
Clint Ober
Lay down and lay on like a sheet or use it as a cover. Okay, those are many. That's how I would recommend.
Ron Beres
Clint earlier you mentioned you said twice a day for 30 minutes, you can go out on your bare feet and get grounded. Does that same concept work now too. So, let's just say I got one-hour sleep on my bed, but I have the grounded pad. Is that good enough to get the bare bone benefits of grounding?
Clint Ober
While he you'll know because if you have pain, if you have pain afterwards, you need more. Yeah, okay, that wasn't what I was saying there is if you can't do anything else, you're you have no means or no money or any way to get grounded indoors, then the best thing you can do is to get grounded outdoors. 30 minutes in the morning after you wake up, get all the inflammation pain out of your body. Then after you go beat yourself up and bite the barrel along, come home at night, and all the coyotes are chewed on you. Then you go back outdoors and you ground yourself for another 30 minutes to discharge the trauma of the coyote Chase.
Lisa Beres
Amazing. This is so great. I hope I hope the listeners are loving this as much as me. I've watched the movie; I've had the pad and I've learned so much. Now, I know you kind of answered this, but just to just to reiterate, is it more beneficial if you have the choice to do the grounding outside barefoot versus your pad? Or would you say they're equal?
Clint Ober
Well, I mean, the idea of the pad was to replicate going outdoors and sleeping on there because we knew that that's you know, that's when the body heals and restores itself. And in nature, we always stopped on the air. So, they're identical in purpose and they will you'll get electrons either way. The if you have no money, you have no resources, you have no option you have to go ground, bare feet. But even if you don't, it's like in the afternoon, you know, it's like when you ground a child or you ground what you're saying is you want to you want to return them to normal. So, no matter what's going on in your life, you can be upset you can have whatever going on, but go outdoors and just sit on the earth for a few minutes. You can't be you can't be mad and angry when you're grounded.
Clint Ober
It�s true. It drains that stress out of them and then everybody's happy again. I mean wow you know it takes just you know 20 to 30 minutes and they're a different person.
Lisa Beres
I feel like we've solved the world's problems.
Clint Ober
Just get rid of the aches and pains. It changes the you know, your circulation improves. The paint everything on the year demeanor change. And then it's like I jelly every slide this is this is a beauty product because you're going to look 10 years younger in 30 minutes.
Lisa Beres
Right and I you know I read the benefits on your website, www.Earthing.com Yeah, aging backwards, so to speak. I mean, I know you don't really use those words, but you know, helping because that's inflammation, right?
Clint Ober
Because you're reducing the inflammation in the body goes to normal.
Lisa Beres
So, if you have leather soled shoes, which they still make, right? I mean, if you have leather soled shoes, you are getting grounded?
Clint Ober
Correct. If you wear them all the time, and they're hydrated, you know, have a little bit of, you know, in the old days, you used to wear them all the time. And they were always very conductive, because you had the body salts and the sweat perspiration from your feet, that you let them sit in a closet for a month, and put them on then they're pretty dry. They won't be as conductive. But they are semiconductor. So yes, they're better than not.
Lisa Beres
And I wonder it made me think about people in Africa and other countries where they are barefoot so often. And yeah, they do seem like you don't have the illness, the level of these crazy illnesses that you were talking about at the top of the show the autism and a lot of the autoimmune disorders, like we do here and you know, developed countries, and they're always barefoot, and we're always we always have shoes on even at the beach, you know?
Ron Beres
Does earthing help with weight loss? I remember during the movie, one of filmmakers, Rebecca, she actually lost weight by grounding herself.
Lisa Beres
A lot of weight, like 50 pounds.
Clint Ober
Yeah. Yeah, weight is, it's like anything, if you are full of stress, full of inflammation, then you're full of anxiety, irritability, ofttimes, depression, what do you do you eat? Yeah. And you don't, it's a chore to get up and go exercise and so on. So, when you get grounded, and you put up the fire of inflammation in your body, and your metabolism begins to normalize, then you have more energy. And so, it's easier to move. Grounding on by itself isn't going to cause you to lose weight. What it does is it puts out, it changes your mental psyche, it changes your metabolism, and now you can get rid of the inflammation. And then you're then you have energy, you it's easy to go out and get up and go for a walk or to eat better, or to do the things that are healthier.
Ron Beres
So, kind of shouldn't drop our gym membership. And just by grounding, we have to do both.
Clint Ober
But I'll tell you one thing about gyms and we work a lot with athletes, and we have for many, many years. And we've grounded hundreds of the most elite athletes in the world, including the Tour de France teams, and so on. But basically, when you exercise, you're creating a lot of inflammation in your body. And we did the studies up at the University of Oregon and Eugene, because they have all the athletes up there and, and so on. So, what we found was is when you go exercise, you're creating a lot of inflammation in your body. If you will ground yourself or 1530 minutes barefoot afterwards, then you discharge all that inflammation. Then when you go to bed, you don't have you don't wake up in the morning with all that aches and pains in your body. Wow, the delayed onset muscle soreness, you don't experience delayed onset muscle soreness, when you ground after your exercises. Otherwise you're doing in many cases, you're doing a lot of damage to your body with exercising. So, this balance, you need to discharge that inflammation that you created.
Ron Beres
You reduce the recovery time.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, especially runners. You know, runners, though, it's very hard on their body. So many people do marathons, they end up with so many knee problems and all of that. So, Clint, this has been absolutely incredible. I know. I had I had read that we recommend more vitamin g for everybody. Let's get your ground and get your earthing. I Is there any last thing you want to leave the listeners with besides visiting earthing calm?
Clint Ober
Well, yes, he is really I mean, if you get a chance to watch the movie, I think that fills in all the blanks. And those it's a very authentic movie. It's real people and real-life stories. And it's very credible, and you'll learn a lot from it. But beyond that is really health is the body's most natural state. If you do not have health, then something in your environment is interfering with your immune systems. ability to maintain your health, or something you're doing is stressing your immune system to the point that it can't maintain health. So rather than looking out there.
Lisa Beres
Yep, for that pill.
Clint Ober
There is no magic pill what you need to do, you need to get grounded. You need someone you need to reconnect with all of that natural that vitamin D from the sun. You need to open up get your Get your mind out of the way and just go back to nature for a while.
Lisa Beres
We all feel better after a vacation. Why is that? Because we're out in nature for like a week or you know, assuming you're taking vacation to beautiful, natural place. That's my idea of a vacation.
Well, thank you so much, Clint. This has been so incredible. We'd love to have you back.
Clint Ober
Anytime open to.
Lisa Beres
Okay, great.
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I'm not sure if Walmart prices are rolling back. But I know here in California and other states across the country stay at home orders shirt our more time at home means more exposure to hidden toxins that permeate your indoor air, your drinking and bathing water, your bedding, and even something called electromagnetic pollution from wireless devices. Be sure to take our online free seven-day healthy home challenge to learn how to stay safe, protect your loved ones and improve your health today that I mentioned it's free. Plus, you get a really cool Bonus Gift called the Stay Safe at Home checklist just for completing the entire week. Visit Bit.ly/thehealthyathomechallenge. Now you and your family's health depend on it. Hey guys, so thank you for joining us today we have a very special guest with us who will be discussing a healthy modality that you may or may not have ever heard of before earthing or grounding. Our guest today is Clinton over I don't know if he remembers meeting us briefly at the movie premiere of The earthing Movie by Josh and Rebecca Tickell in Hollywood last year or not. And if you haven't seen this movie yet, please run don't walk barefoot, of course to watch it.
Ron Beres
Yeah, that movie is a must-see incredible film. Clint, you did an amazing job there. And in fact, I want to introduce you. I wanted the audience to understand your background and where you come from. So, Clinton Ober is the CEO of Earth FX Inc, our research and development company. It's located in Palm Springs, California, and he first started grounding when installing cable TV systems in Billings, Montana in the early 1960s. A decade later, he formed telecom Corporation and built it into the largest provider of cable installation services in the USA. This company specialized in proper grounding of cable installations for safety and for TV signal stability. In the 1980s, he turned his attention to developing computer industry and partnered with McGraw Hill to distribute live digital news services via cable to PCs, and this led to the development of the first cable modem and an increased awareness of a need for proper system grounding. And following a health challenge in 1995, Clint retired, and he embarked on a personal journey, looking for a higher purpose in life. And during his travels, Clint noticed people wearing plastic and rubber soled shoes that insulated the body from the earth. And he wondered if no longer being naturally grounded, could affect us. The question led to an experiment that suggested grounding alone, reduced chronic pain and improved sleep. Thereafter, he'd adopt a working hypothesis, Earth grounding the human body normalizes functioning of all bodily systems. So, over the past 20 years, he has supported a host of research studies, like the earth Institute, that collectively demonstrate that grounding alone reduces inflammation, and promotes normal functioning of all body systems.
Ron Beres
Welcome to the show. Welcome.
Clint Ober
Well, thank you so much for inviting me and spending time visiting with me and helping to hopefully share some of this information with your followers and your family.
Ron Beres
Well, Clint, you are you are the Pioneer You are the legend in this industry. What exactly is earthing? If anyone can describe it?
Clint Ober
All right, well, first of all, a little science lesson the earth itself has a negative charge meaning the word negative meaning no charge. And so when you and it's an electrical phenomena, so when you put your bare feet on the earth, and to give some reference to that, throughout all time, we were always barefoot, or we always wear leather soled shoe, or we were always, you know, in living in nature, and touching there touching live things. But anyhow, in the 1960s about we invented polymers and we started making that rubber soled shoes, and the conductive flooring and all of these creature comforts. And so, when you when the human body stands on the earth itself, then your body will become negatively charged like the earth, meaning it will reduce any charge in the body. So anyhow, then, when we started wearing these rubber soled shoes and everything, then we, we lost our natural ground, we lost this connection with the earth, and now our bodies are more positively charged. And we have, and the inflammation began to manifest in the 1960s, like in diabetes, autism, lupus, MS, all of these health disorders, and they've been on an exponential curve for the last 30 years is now 60 years. And so anyhow, I am answering the question here, basically, yeah. When you stand on the earth, your body is negatively charged. So, inflammation is a positive charge. So, what we spent the last 20 years is rounding people to the earth to validate the effects of grounding the body. And what we learned was is you can't have inflammation on a grounded body.
Ron Beres
Wow, quick question. Is that similar to like getting negative ions from the ocean?
Clint Ober
Yeah. And ion is a is a molecule that hasn't, you know, electrons and so on, but it's more of a molecule. But on sort of more beach, they float around the shells of the ions and so on. Yeah, they're all similar. Yes. Yes, sir. Also, yes.
Lisa Beres
And negative. And I know some people listening when you say, you know, it's, we actually want the negative ions, the negative ions are positive, the positive ions are negative.
Clint Ober
Yeah, think of it this way. You want the negative no charge ones, right?
Lisa Beres
Yeah, exactly. Okay. So, I don't even know if you know, our background. But I got severely ill, over 15 years ago, when I moved into a newly remodeled home. And I was exposed to all this off gassing of these toxic chemicals. Yes. And I went through, I dove deep into a healing journey. And at that time, I was familiar with earthing grounding, because I looked into everything natural. So, I had come across that and we had purchased a grounding pad. And I didn't recall having issues when I first started using it. But then we moved about 11 years ago, into a new home and I ceased to put the grounding pad back on the bed just got lost kind of in the cast of the move. So, when I finally did add it back, I noticed a really strange and uncomfortable tingling sensation through my entire body. And I was totally unaware of what this was. And it made me really nervous. And so, wash the pad because these are washable. And Clint�s going to tell you more about these later, we're going to talk about what I'm talking about what this pad is, I washed the pad, I wrapped it back up. And I started. So, I went through this process a few more times, because I knew the grounding pad had worked for me. But I was like, why am I having these strange sensations. So later, we noticed running on both notice our sleeping patterns in this house just really wasn't good. We were waking up tired tossing and turning all night. And so, we had made some additional changes to our bedroom by removing a few unknown EMF sources, such as an electric clock that we have near the head of our bed. And then I decided after that I'm going to try the pad one more time, and voila, the tingling had ceased, and I was able to sleep incredible. So, is this normal? Clint, do you hear this? And if so, what do you recommend for people who are using a grounding pad and I might have jumped into that really quickly. But we'll get into what that is.
Clint Ober
That's fine. That's the real story right there. You know, first of all, I need to share with you a couple things one, over the last 20 years, there's probably over a million people that are on these grounding, matching, whatever now. And they're mostly 35 to 55-year-old women. And these women's their health is compromised on some basis. And they're also taking care of their mom whose health is compromised, and they're taking care of their kids and occasionally their husbands.
Clint Ober
You know, it's just, it's just that, for instance, you know, 90% of the business to a practitioner or female. Yeah. Oh, really?
Ron Beres
What are you saying the husbands don't listen?
Clint Ober
No, I'm saying that. No husband doesn't go to a doctor until he has his first heart attack generally. Yeah,
Lisa Beres
That's so true.
Clint Ober
But the women are more the caregivers in the family and they kind of take care of the husbands to take care of everybody. And I'm not putting guys down. You know, guys are just slow learners. It took me 20 years to get this thing out. Yeah.
Lisa Beres
And they're very bad at like, even in an emergency situation. like going to the hospital. I hear that story all the time. Like, Oh, no, no, I'm fine. I'll tough it out. And then that can make things so bad. Maybe you can give an overview of what the pads are. We're going to get really into this in a little bit. But you know, is this normal for someone who starts to do the earthing? Yes, in practice this this tingling? Like it made me scared.
Clint Ober
I thought something was wrong. It's going to take me a little a few minutes to explain this for you. Yeah. Okay. So basically, what happens is your body is like a capacitor, meaning it's like a little battery. And the earth is a big battery, and just being charged by the sun. So, when you put your feet on the earth, then your body charges up and equalizes with the earth, and your battery. But as the product, I mean, if you are very short on electrons, if you haven't been grounding for a long period of time, or if your health is compromised, and you have inflammation in your body, then you will feel the tingling more so than not, but it should dissipate after about 15 minutes, that's after the body equalizes a little bit. So, this is a phenomenon that goes on with several people. And, and people who have like limes and various other situations where their health is extremely compromised. Well, the first thing that happens when you ground is your blood thins out and normalizes the blood viscosity. Because the little red blood cells which are electrical, they equalize with the earth and become more negatively charged. And when they're negative, it's like two little negative magnets, you put them together and they push each other apart. Now the blood can get in there. And for me, it normalizes its thickness, I mean, it becomes thinner. Now I can get in and out of the capillaries clean up the, you know, the spirochaetes in the ends of the capillaries that are trapped down there for you have poor circulation. And so, you end up having sometimes even a prune feeling, because of the die off of the spirochaetes. But there's all kinds of phenomena, everybody's different. So, there's no one thing for everybody. But the sensations are different. But a lot of it has to do with your living environment. And like you were mentioning, if you have a lot of VOCs in the environment, that's going to affect if you have an extreme amount of electric fields, it's like 99% of the people or let's say, 90 some percent of the people have are not affected by electric fields at all. And there's a reason for it. And that's because they're the people who do have exhaust I mean, who are sensitive to electric fields and static electricity and sometimes touch touching fabrics, or wind or noise or whatever. Their adrenals are exhausted.
Lisa Beres
That's what I had. Yeah, adrenal burnout. So many people. Women too, I think because you know, women are the juggle, I mean, we all juggle a lot today we're stressed
Ron Beres
About their husbands least.
Clint Ober
But I grew up in Montana. And you know, we had cows, cattle, I sat on a horse and babysit cows all day and, and you're looking for cows that are not like, I mean, they're balling or the glassy eyed, something's wrong with him. So, you take them out of the herd. And then you go check the pasture and make sure the pasture is clean and pristine. Because if you take care of the pasture, the cows will be healthy. If you don't take care of the pasture, then the cows get sick, you call the bad call the bank and say, Hey, we're out of here. But while I was doing that, oftentimes, I would be sitting there sometimes in and the field is full of jackrabbits. Some years, and whenever there's jackrabbits, there's coyotes. And so, the coyotes are, you know, the rat, the rabbits are sitting there eating grass like normal, just like all of us, we're just living our lives. And all of a sudden, the coyote sneaks up, and the rabbit senses the cortisol skyrockets, the years go up, the coyote jumps, the rabbit springs, and it will zigzag back and forth across the pasture. And 90% of the time, their coyote will run out of energy, he'll just stop dead in his tracks lay down, and he'll be there panting.
Lisa Beres
I've never witnessed that.
Clint Ober
But the rabbit will go just a little bit further. And when the rabbit many, it'll stop, and it'll be sitting there and you can see it. And so, this little thing, they're just quivering, because their life has just been threatened. Right? But then all of a sudden, they'll have this big shake, and then they go back to eating grass like nothing ever happened. So, I didn't know any of this at the time. But over the years, I've been able to put this together with specialists to help some other researchers. But anyhow, so what happens is cortisol creates a lot of adrenaline, a lot of you know, it's your sympathetic nervous system is on this heightened sort of cortisol, it's extreme. And so, after the chase, you have to discharge that otherwise, the cortisol will create like in women anxiety, irritability, or depression, and it goes into if you don't discharge it grounded out ground out of the trauma of the chase. So, I the reason I tell that story is all yours because the average A woman who has children, husband lives in a house. That's it, you manage all of this, I mean, her life is full of coyotes, the kids can be.
Lisa Beres
A lot of mothers would agree with that, wow.
Clint Ober
The kids have all these, you know, things that they need, and you are in a panic to get all of these things done on time. And so your cortisol becomes elevated, you become a very sensitive, you're more sensitive to commerce, and, but then you get your husband after work, get kids to school, whatever, then you may have to go to work yourself, or you get into traffic or whatever it is. But there's the world is full of coyotes. Yeah, things that spike, the sympathetic nervous system. Mm hmm. And if you stay in a highly elevated sympathetic state for too long, then the adrenals, which usually dampen the effect of the sympathetic, mm hmm, you know, the parasympathetic nervous system, then it becomes exhausted, then the sympathetic overdrives. And now you're full of cortisol, you're, and that creates pain, that creates irritability, that creates more frustration, more stress, and so submission, vicious cycle, and if it goes on too long, it can, you know, creates a lot of inflammation in the body, then your immune system is busy, trying to put fire of inflammation out that itself is creating because of the fact that it's not grounded. And then this creates a fire in the body, and then eventually, your health becomes compromised, or a major health disorder manifest. But anyhow, so basically, we have to ground out. In nature, we were grounded 24, seven, you know, throughout all time, and today, we barely have ever touched the ground. So, our bodies become, you know, full of inflammation, our body, you know, exhausted and so it interferes with and compromises our normal health.
Ron Beres
We want to be the jackrabbit; we want to avoid the coyotes. We want to experience these earthing benefits. Uh huh. How can someone experience the earthing benefits?
Clint Ober
First of all, it's very simple in you know, over the years, we produce them, I imagine around 24-25, peer reviewed published studies in the objective of what we were trying to do. And again, I had a background in grounding, and, but I knew nothing about biology. So, I incorporated or brought in all of these researchers and scientists and whatever. And so basically, what we want to identify is, and the reason we did this is because the first time I ever grounded myself or grounded any of my people, I slept better. But more importantly, anybody who had pain, chronic burning pain, like inflammatory pain, you could put an electrode patch on the ground and kill the earth. And in 510 minutes, the pain is 1%. Gone, they could have had it for 20 years. So, the point is, you can't have inflammation in a grounded body. inflammation is caused from you have a pathogen in your body, you have a damaged cell, and the immune system sends over a neutrophil. The neutrophil, which is a white blood cell, wraps around the pathogen and encapsulates it and releases reactive oxygen species. And if that rips the electrons away from the pathogens and destroys them. So that's how the immune system works. And but the problem is, is throughout all time, the immune system of the body was always grounded. And you always had this negative, this reservoir of negative charge. So, if there were any remaining radicals, left over from the immune response, they were automatically neutralized by Earth. free electrons, earth�s ground and when we live in an environment where we don't have access to these electrons, then these radicals will rip electrons from nearby cells and damage them. They then send the cell a message to the immune system, saying, hey, something's still here getting me send another neutrophil. So, you end up with the chain reaction. And that's the fire of inflammation. That is the word inflammation is body on fire in plain.
Lisa Beres
It is the root of all illness, right? Yes, it is. So yeah. And then blame society. I mean, so many people have inflammation and don't know because I think when you hear the word inflammation, you think, Oh, your skin's going to be red and burning or something. But inflammation is like a dis dissonance, I guess in your body, right? It's, it's, it's stress to your body. So, you don't always see it. You don't physically see the inflammation.
Clint Ober
It can sometimes if you have pain in your body, and this year, like Dr. Stephen Sinatra came along and helped out in the early days, he said, Clyde, when I first was working on the CCS clinic, he said you need to be researching information. We knew that pain went away, but we knew nothing about inflammation. He said you need to be searching inflammation because you cannot have pain in the body unless you have inflammation first. So, anybody who has any kind of pain in their body, they have some kind of inflammation going on. Mm hmm. But the point is, but the point of it is I just make one more little small point and then we'll go to the product thing, but the point is, once this inflammation cascade starts in the body, inflammation is not a normal term, or healthy. In throughout time, throughout all history, we've never had the word used the word inflammation. For instance, animals in the wild, do not experience inflammation. They do not have cancer, they do not have cardiovascular disease, autism, lupus, or anything. But animals who live indoors with their owners, they all manifest similar health disorders to their owners, and 50% of animals from cancer. Domestic, domestic, domestic animals.
Lisa Beres
Clint, is that because the animals aren't getting that grounding? Or is that because they're picking up on the stress of the household?
Clint Ober
Don't be animals outdoors are grounded all the time grounded all the time. Yeah, animals indoors, or they're lying on a on a fluffy couch full of static electricity.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, and let's not even mention their horrible pet food. I've written some articles on that.
Clint Ober
It's all it's all of the above. Yeah. But you know, you see, it's living apart from nature or living out of what we now know to be part of nature. And so anyhow, once this inflammation gets underway in the body, then the immune system is forever trying to put this fire out. But by trying to put it down because it doesn't have enough redox potential or enough free electrons, it's actually creating more fire. It's like burning along. So, the key to it is you have to add electrons to the body, negative electrons in order for the body to put out the fire. For instance, if you have pain in your body from arthritis, or MS or anything else, you put a patch on it, the pain stops. So, what you're doing is you're flooding the body with free electron that puts out the fire. So, you can have MS winter grounded. You know how you can only have one after you take up you go back to living if you live, if you live grounded your whole life. As if you're having cancer are nil, the odds of you are having any autoimmune disease is nil. Because the word autoimmune means the immune system is just functioning.
Clint Ober
Something's interfering with the immune system's ability to maintain health.
Lisa Beres
So, Clint the patches so we can get into like the products, we use a pad and for anyone who's not visited earthing calm, which is Clint�s website, where he offers a plethora of solutions, including pads for under I'm barefoot right now, but I'm at my desk. But there are because this is a zoom call. And we're, we're at stay at home order. So, we're doing this from home, and I'm barefoot. But basically, there's pads that you could put under your desk, we have a, it's like a third of a sheet size that was on the bottom of your bed, I want to kind of give a visual to people, it lays over your fitted sheet. And it plugs into the grounding part of your outlet. So, it has a cord it's plugged in. But there's absolutely no electricity. It's literally just tapping into the grounding of the earth. So, I know that you write you say people say, Oh, can I leave that on all the time? Yeah, you can leave it you can leave the grounding pad on all the time. It's not costing any money, because it's just accessing that ground. So, for us run and I don't walk barefoot as much as we would like to, we don't have an actual backyard. We live in California. We haven't we have a
Ron Beres
Nice little patio.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, out of the beach. But to be honest, we're not really good about walking barefoot enough. So, we use that grounding pad. We sleep on that. And now every night, it's amazing. I have noticed a huge difference in like just the puffiness, I think the puffiness in the face when you wake up sometimes, you know get that look like oh, I've noticed that for me. That's inflammation. That's inflammation. And Brian had had gout. He had brought his gout in his family. And that's been something he had really severely and over the years we're vegan now through just changing his diet. That's even the grounding pad like Ron's virtually he's met at medication free now. And he was taking really high doses of medication for that before and I want to explain to because I know the conductive materials. So, what is conductive? You talked about the rubber or the rubber soles or not, but the conductive materials would be grass, sand, dirt and concrete. Is there anything else so we want to get our feet on those particular surfaces?
Clint Ober
Correct. Those surfaces are the ones that are naturally grounded. Okay, anything other than that would be artificially grounded meaning that artificially meaning you have they have grounded carpets that they use in clean rooms, 911 centers and mission critical centers are because you can't have any static union surgical centers you have grounded floors. But you can have a grounded floor. But anyhow in our research what we did, and this will help with the product thing is when we were doing the research we did if we weren't have no interest whatsoever, or no idea that we would ever be in the business of Providing products that was not our mission, our mission was to understand earthing, or understand the effects of grounding. But anyhow, so in order to ground people, we had to make up what we call ground planes or grounding mats, pads, and connect them to a ground and then have people sleep on sit on whatever lay on them, and or patches in order to do the measurements for the clinical studies. And in the process of doing that many of the people in the early days, especially the small pads that were like, one foot wide by two or three feet long, everybody wanted them after the studies the subjects and a lot of the subjects wanted them for their relatives and so on. So, we accidentally started developing these products. So anyhow, wow, in the in the process of doing that, we started out with carbon fiber materials and we would bond them to felt pads carbon is an electrically conductive material. And then we connected to a wire and connected to the ground. So when you lay on it, I mean yes at Earth or potential as soon as you lay on the electrical charge of the earth equalizes with the pad or the pad equalizes with that charge, then when you lay on your body is conductive, then you become negatively charged, you become grounded. So, in the process, we had to develop these products in a way that people could sleep on them. And 24 hours a day, I mean, not 24 hours a day, but eight hours, that some people need eight hours.
Clint Ober
So anyhow, it's so we've spent over the last 20 years also trying to evolve or develop a family of products that are first of all effective after what they do. Second, they're safe. And then three, they have to be affordable for people. And, and I work with, you know, like the state of California, their health sciences and so on. And I remember talking to them one day, and they said, we totally understand what you're doing. We only caution you on one thing, when you go out and start teaching this to the people, you need to have two things one, a no cost solution, and a low-cost solution, because this is something that affects everybody. And I said, well, the no cost is easy. We just get him to go outdoors, take shoes, with their feet on the concrete or on the ground or the grass. And just notice what happens if they do that twice a day. It'll change their life. I guarantee anybody how many minutes for 30 minutes? Yeah, I mean, that's if you're younger, and your health is not very compromised. If your health is very compromised, then you need to get grounded. And stay grounded until you get well. That means sleep grounded, sit grounded, just stay grounded as much as you can. So anyhow, we ended up starting coming out with mats, then we came for the bed, we recognized early on that the most important thing we could do. Because you can't ground people during the day very easy. They're moving, they're traveling, they're whatever. And so, we figured well, the best thing we can do is develop something they could sleep on. And that's where the math came from. And just recently, and we're just now in the final stages of because our company is a research and development company. We've always our, our business is doing research and development. But now we're in the business of these passive stuff. But anyhow, so here's commerce.
And so anyhow, we have developed a family of sleep products, they're carbon, and they're a mat the size of the bed or half the size of the bed, you put them under your sheet. They're 100% conductive, where the silver ones were only 5% conductive, and the silver would become oxidized after time.
Lisa Beres
I was going to ask that do they do they wear off after a while? Yeah, the silver after white washing because these are washable? They they're Genet? Well, the one I have as thin as a sheet. Yes, you can just throw it in the washer.
Clint Ober
Yeah, they're, they're washable, but the problem is, is the salts I mean the body when you perspire, then the salts from your body will oxidize the silver. And then eventually it loses conductivity. If you're wash it and the more often you wash it, the better. And sometimes they'll last up to a year two years. That's every night using them. Sometimes they won't last 30 days if somebody sweats a lot. So, we had to move away from that over the years.
Lisa Beres
Somebody needs a new earthing pad. Right.
Clint Ober
Well get ahold of Kylie afterwards and get you a sample. I think right? But anyhow we have the now we have pillow covers, you know the pillow cover not to pillowcase the cover that goes over your pillow. It's a carbon cover, and you've put it on separate up, plug it in, and then put your pillowcase on top and lay down and go to sleep is that's one of the more popular products right now.
Lisa Beres
Wow. So, it doesn't matter, Clint. If it's coming through your feet or through your face, like you're still getting the benefits?
Clint Ober
Your body is conductive. So, it will equalize. For me. Yes, the feet in the hands are the most conductive meaning in nature, that's those are our grandpa ground paws, I guess. But we were always you know, where our bare feet or our hands touching live things. And so, throughout time, we were grounded, we're always easily grounded. But when you're lying down, you have on a large ground plane, a huge ground plane like a sleeping mat, then you've got to you've got two things going on one, your body is absorbing the electrons from the earth that are coming through the pad. But also, the earth itself has resonant resonating rhythms and frequencies. So, at night, they're low, and during the noon, they're high. So, but they have to do with regulating your hormone cascades cortisol at night, and things like that. So, you're lying on the pad, your way quiets the nervous system and discharges the inflammation. And then when the body will can heal and return to normal.
Lisa Beres
That's amazing. I and it's come through it sounds like this carbon material is thicker, so it probably even as like a nice little almost padding.
Clint Ober
Your soul is a little thicker. Maybe there's one of them. But the pillowcases, they're very thin. Okay, so it's not, no, it's not thick or anything like that. But the main thing is it works. So now we have a product that we know unequivocally. Five years from now it's going to be working perfectly. Where we never had these products actually less costly than the silver for
Lisa Beres
the patches that you talked about. For the hands someone has if someone's having arthritis or pain in their arms. Now that would be a patch, but it's grounded. It's connected to the ground, not like a plug into the outlet.
Clint Ober
It's got a coil cord.
Lisa Beres
Okay, so you could actually wear that while you're typing on your computer. Yes. Okay. Well, that's really so you have a visual, you guys, it's, it's a cord. And then when you buy the product, you get a little device that plugs into your outlet. Yeah. And then the cord plugs into that. So that all comes like as a package set, just so you kind of get a visual of what this looks like.
Ron Beres
Because I'm curious, can these earthing products can actually protect against cell phone frequencies as well, if you're grounded with the earth?
Clint Ober
Well, any of the low frequencies, you know, like the 60 hertz, and all of these things. So, once you connect to the earth, then you are electrically one in the same as the earth.
Clint Ober
okay. So, and that's the way we've always been. So, all living things, trees, and all these things that are electrically connected to the earth. So, they are naturally protected from EMF, it's like trees underneath power lines, that leaves you're fine, the roots are fine, you know, and so on. The animals that are grounded outdoors, they can sleep under power lines, it doesn't affect them, and so on. When you are not grounded, then your body is an antenna. And it attracts these emfs and so on. And you can actually measure the charges on the body. But again, I have to be really careful with that. Now, I want to fill in the blank there. But to answer your question, most of these things don't penetrate the skin, so they're not going to really do any harm to the body. What they are going to do more than anything else is if you are ungrounded, then your body being an antenna, the hair on your body is an antenna and sometimes it'll stimulate sympathetic nervous system, which, you know, helps to contribute to that chronically elevated sympathetic state. Okay,
Ron Beres
The coyotes, you're mentioning the coyotes.
Clint Ober
So anyhow, the, the cell phones, the biggest problem, everybody's worried about cell towers, a cell tower can transmit a signal that your phone can receive, the more and that's you know, that's it's there, it's real. And it's not going to change that sort of world. And it's coming fast. But on the other hand, the real problem if you're concerned about cell phones, and 5g and all this kind of thing, that the cell phone in your hand is the problem. The sun cell phone on your ear, because it has to put out a signal that can actually reach that tower. So, and all day long, you're staying in contact so there's noise going back and forth. So, and people are not going to give up their cell phones. So, the thing you have to do is be prudent in how you use them. Use the earbuds or the earphones or whatever. Use the speakerphone all the time.
Lisa Beres
Air tube headsets are really great too. You don't want to use the Bluetooth which, you know, people walk around with, like an antenna attached to their head and I, I see them at the gym like that. And I'm like, do you understand that? It's like one part you're trying to be healthy, but you're zapping your body.
Clint Ober
I think we have to go back to the people who have exhausted adrenals are very sensitive to these frequencies and signals or more for sensitive people who your adrenals are not exhausted, doesn't bother them.
Lisa Beres
When I had my healing journey, I had major burnout because I was you know, constantly and I, I was a career woman traveling all over the country, I was always on a plane always packing always go, go, go, go go go. And boy, triple A, as a triple A. And man, it came crashing down. Like when you when you put your body under that and you constantly put your body under that kind of stress. And our society encourages that, you know, busy, the glorification of busy. And you know, I mean, I was determined my worth by my checklist and how much in a day and, you know, I was definitely drinking coffee and getting through my day. And I know so many people can listen and can relate to that. But let me tell you, when that comes crashing down, and you lose that your energy is zapped, and I it's no fun. And you know, earthing obviously, I mean, would you say it could heal that like adrenal burnout?
Clint Ober
Well, yeah, the thing that if you have any kind of a health disorder, or a challenge, any kind of a health challenge or health is compromised, even if you have cancer doesn't matter what it is, the reason that exists, is because your immune system is compromised. Because if your immune system healthy, you won't have any of these modern health disorders, these degenerative type of health disorders. So always think that something is compromising the immune system. So, what you have to do, I mean, something you're doing or something in your environment, and that's what you specialize in. And, and so what you have to do is you have to remove the things that you're doing that interfere with your immune systems health, or you have to remove the things in your environment, and then your immune system will restore itself, restore the adrenals, and it will restore the body to normal. That's the only thing that the immune system knows to do. And that's what it does. So, it isn't taking all these things. Sometimes it's really about putting ourselves back in nature in our most natural state as possible. Now we know that part of that's grounded. So, its grounding is you have to have grounding. You have to have sunlight. We live in homes today where there's no sunlight, and our vitamin D is compromised. So, vitamin DS some of my time outdoors in the sunlight with your bare feet on the earth is essential, then you have to have, I believe, you know, I'm more of a naturalist. But you know, spring water, you know, that has normal mineral content. Yeah, right.
Lisa Beres
Exactly.
Clint Ober
I mean, you want to eat food as close to you as possible.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, we did a raw we almost went raw. We did a food cleanse for a couple weeks. And well, we went for our first Rob meal. And we went to work out matter of the day that day or the next day, and I was just so energized. I wasn't even tired after my workout. And I said, this is crazy. We went back to the restaurant, the restaurant and I we met the chef and I was telling her because she had so much energy and she looked at me she goes yeah, that's the whole point of raw is the whole reason people do the raw food diet because you know, it's using the enzymes from the food instead of your body it depleting your body of that to break all the food down. And it's basically giving you all this extra energy.
Ron Beres
I was always hungry.
Lisa Beres
There are no carbs really. I mean.
Clint Ober
Come into you normalize. Everything normalizes Yeah, reading electrons. You're eating energy,
Lisa Beres
Like living food, right? A raw food, hundred percent diet is difficult.
Clint Ober
I think for most people. I said, as close as possible.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, exactly. I say we do that. We have a salad every single day and you know, lots of raw veggies. But going back to so hey, if you're listening and you're in New York City, or you're in a city where you don't have a beach and you can't walk on the sand, or maybe you don't even have grass nearby, you can actually walk on concrete. Is that right? Clint? Yes. concrete. It's so because concrete is conductive. Like it's so weird. So, you could walk on your sidewalk outside barefoot. for half an hour, you get some strange looks from your neighbors and go for glass. Yeah. Like cut for dirt. But that would that can restore you just by the concrete. I always thought concrete always shocks me. So, what about concrete floors in your home? Would that do the same thing?
Clint Ober
Yeah, if you have, you know, a lot of the homeless people that we work with, we recommend that they when they're building to polish the concrete and put a nice stain on it and put a water-based sealer on it. Perfect ground. So, you're just like walking barefoot all day long. Yeah. You're still going to know What is not conductive?
Lisa Beres
What is not conductive? I know what feels so good on your feet I love wood floors but yeah, it's not conductive so nor is asphalt and nor is of course vinyl. I mean if you have vinyl in your house, get rid of it. It's bad and millions of ways not just because it's not conductive but obviously vinyl off gases VOC�s into the air and phthalates. Vinyl is very high in phthalates it's because that's the chemical that softens the plastic which is an endocrine disruptor so you don't want vinyl anything. But so, going back today we're living in the time of Coronavirus, COVID-19. And I had read one of your posts Clint on Facebook actually, kind of early in this pandemic where you talked about the cytokine storm that happens with COVID patients and you had talked about earthing Can you bring that full circle and kind of give us a little overview of how that works?
Clint Ober
Well I can tell you that in our studies, and over the years, we have grounded a lot of people, we've come across a lot of people with like COPD and or you know, colds or pneumonias and whatever. And in in many of these cases, what I what I did was take an electrode patch to them, the kit comes with two of them. But anyhow, you put one on the top of each one, and then go ahead and plug them in. So basically, read and then all of a sudden, within a few minutes, I can breathe. And so, it's like asthma or anything else, when you breathe the air in, then your immune system is forever cleaning, or reducing the pathogens or, you know, cleaning and maintaining the lungs in a healthy state. So, if all of a sudden you breathe in something that is toxic to the body, then the immune system has to go in and start cleaning up the damage or the whatever is going on. And in the process. Sometimes, if you don't have enough ground, if your body is on negative, then as these white blood cells release cytokines or whatever, then they will you know they oxidize in the electrons away from the pathogen, and in some cases, damaged tissue. And then if you don't have enough ground on any of these excess cytokines, they will damage an adjacent cell, then the immune system sends more. And so that's what creates this what they call your cytokines the one the only thing you have to do to stop it as far as my experience, and I have 20 years of experience and observations is your take ground the body put the patches on the top of the one closest to where this cytokine storm is. And then what it does is it dampens the immediate floods the body with free electrons negative charge negative up your body's becoming negative. And then that damping there reduces the excess cytokine or the excess reactive oxygen species in the lungs that calms everything down dampness. And then healing and healing can take place. So COVID is something that's really challenge right now. I think it's all related. But I can't speak to it. Exactly. We are doing a little bit of research with it within in New Orleans in a couple places. But we don't have the studies back so we can't really talk about it. But I can tell you in general, if you have any kind of a respiratory situation where like asthma, I mean asthma if you want to just go outdoors and barefoot on the earth or jump in a swimming pool it stops immediately.
Lisa Beres
It's the same fall right because you get because the water is water. Water Yeah. So that even taking a bath right even just getting a bath. Yes, you are grounded right you're grounded in it?
Clint Ober
As long as you have cold water pipes coming into what you do with you know the cold, but the drains and the newer ones may have plastic but the older homes Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
So, the pipes, right?
Clint Ober
Yes. If you have metal grounded Yes.
Lisa Beres
I think we they replaced our pipes and I think they're those PEX. Is that the name of it? I think that's what it's called a familiar with those. They are kind of a I was so upset about it. But the old the pipes were bursting in people's homes. The metal pipe was a problem. So, they use this. I think it's called PEX and it is unfortunately synthetic material was very upset about it. I read a lot about it. They say it's not as bad as you know, PVC obviously not as bad as PVC or anything but so you have to have the metal pipes. Otherwise you're not grounded in the bathtub. Right? Right. Okay, but in the ocean. And would you need salt water, or does it have to be? No, it doesn't have to be a saltwater pool. It could be just a regular pool.
Clint Ober
Yeah, just regular pool.
Lisa Beres
Okay, so yes. Wow. So have they use this grounding on COVID patients that you're aware of, or even in hospitals in general is are there hospitals around the country that are actually using this?
Clint Ober
Yeah, the hospitals and everybody out there are so mean you have to follow protocol because there is so much activity, everybody has to know what everybody's doing. And everybody has to do the same thing. So, there can be any changes. So, there's not much experimentation. And most of the experimentation is off premise, taking care of people who are not in the hospital. And we can't give anybody you know, a, I can't come out and say just do this, you're going to, all I can say is get grounded is certainly going to help because a lot of the cobia is, if your immune system is strong, and you are healthy, then your body can handle most of these viruses. And most anything that comes along colds, people who are healthy, have less colds, people who are sick, have more colds, and just use common sense. So, but it's about your immune system. It's not about what grounding does for Cobra is really about what grounding does is it puts out the fire of inflammation in your body, the immune system can recover, and then it can go and do what it's supposed to function. Normally, rather than, you know, you know, what we call an autoimmune disease autoimmune disorder. disorder means the immune system can't function like it's supposed to. Something's interfering with it. So that's what we're talking about, fix it, and then your immune system will do its best, because 90% of the people I guess, 99% of people that have COVID, they recover, they survive. But anyhow, so the people whose health is compromised, whose immune systems are compromised, they are the ones that are suffering and, in the hospitals, and your immune system can't manage the COVID.
Ron Beres
Right? Well, Clint, we have a lot of electro hypersensitive people that come to us for information. Can they ground themselves the same way?
Clint Ober
Well, when you say electrosensitive, that's what we're talking about. He has, they have their son, they're not electrosensitive. They have exhausted adrenals. Okay, and I and I can only say that because I have 20 years of observation with fibromyalgia, and lupus and all these things. And everybody's, you know, talking about electro sensitivity, but that's a, that's a secondary, it's a secondary thing to exhausted adrenal. So, once you would normally normalize your adrenals, then your sympathetic is doing this. They'll do what it's supposed to do. It'll be sensitive. Your parasympathetic will modulate these things, so that you don't have this overdriving sympathetic, which creates the sensitivity.
Lisa Beres
Okay, did you heal yourself completely from lupus and Fibromyalgia through earthing and grounding?
Clint Ober
No, I never had any of those. I when I when I got into grounding. 20 years ago, I just asked the question, but I was at that time I was 54. I said, I turned 76. yesterday.
Ron Beres
Ah, you sound good. For those who aren't saying what he is thrive, reviving. And he is grounded.
Clint Ober
But anyhow, so but at that at 50 years old, or 54, I had all kinds of aches and pains. The arthritis stuff was starting to show up. And but I was a cowboy. And I was I've skied most of my life. play tennis, I've done everything. I have twisted knees, twisted ankles, back surgery, I've had everything you can imagine. So, when I was, I remember when I was 54. I went outdoors one-time, and I looked up and said, God, why didn't you make my body with so much pain in it? And then it was later I found out he didn't it was me. But anyhow, so it's electric car, just answer the question electro sensitivity is you need to ground out the inflammation in your body and do and focus on restoring your adrenals. And you can do that by reducing the stress in your mind. Because what's causing a lot of these, what's causing a lot of inflammation in your body is it's the stress that you're it's the fight or flight. It's the mental stress, people who have great loss. And we were talking to a lady one time who had Ms. And I asked her I said you weren't born with Ms. And she was like 34? And she says no, it just showed up a couple years ago. And I said what happened to cause it to manifest? And she said, I don't know. And then I was getting things organized for everything. And all of a sudden, she said, you know, that was the year that we lost our home. And, you know, we went into we were on the street and we were whatever and whatever. And so, these things, you know a lot most of it and I've asked many, many people whether it doesn't matter what it is cancer, it doesn't matter what it is. Yeah, happened in your life prior to this manifesting. Wow. And there's always a story No boss. Yeah, a story of great loss or life didn't turn out the way they expected or they were jilted.
Lisa Beres
That's interesting. We go, we go to an integrative Medical Center, and they also have a cancer center as a part of it. And the first thing they do when they have a cancer patient is, they evaluate their the mental, like you just talked about, what was the incident, they do a really thorough kind of frequency analysis. And they do, I think, even not to hypnosis, but kind of where they go back. And they find out what was the, the moments, right that were cause? Yeah, could have even been back in childhood. And maybe the disease manifests years and years later. So, we have a cop on the phone, if you're open to answering some questions, Clint?
Clint Ober
Absolutely.
Lisa Beres
So, Brett, welcome to the show. We heard you have a question for Clint?
Caller, Brett
Thank you for you know, explaining the benefits of earthing to the world. And I watched the movie. And it's very fascinating, by the way, and I had the book as well. And I'm not a nature guy, I don't always go out all the time. So, having your indoor products are definitely a helpful thing for me to have. stay grounded, for example. So, I just want to ask you really quickly about your product that you own your throw your blanket, for example. And I'm curious, like when using a check how much of your body or skin really needs to be exposed to it to get the full benefits, and maybe just be part of your body, more skin the better or what would you say?
Clint Ober
I will say this any amount of grounding is good, anyone to contact, but more is better. And that comes from my background in the communication industry, if you want to quiet the noise in your environment, or if you want to ground, in this case, the body, then you know, the better the more ground the better, right, so the more exposed your skin on your products, the better they're saying. And then there's not necessarily entirely metal contact skin contact is conductive. It's about you know, when you lay on something you Your body is always hydrating, or perspiration is hydrating the material. And then also there's humidity in the air. And so there's always there's a certain amount of electrical conductivity, you know, when you have clothing on, so I'm trying to say, so you don't have to necessarily in contact, but like to throw up your wrapping around yourself with your clothes on, you're going to notice and you're going to feel great, right? Are there are there any parts your body that are like, you know better than others, like, if it's like just exposed to my legs, or my feet or arms, it doesn't matter? Well as the bottom of your feet and the bottom of your hand, the palms of your hands are the most conductive parts of your body. Like if you go outdoors, put your hands and your feet on the ground, and you're going to get the more the most significant result in the shortest period of time. If you just lay down, you'll get the same result may take a few minutes, a few seconds for a few minutes longer. But uh you know, is if you have, for instance, arthritis in the knee or a hip, then you will want to ground that quarter of the body of the leg or the hip or the whatever. And because what you're doing is a shorter path to ground, meaning when you're putting electrons into them are pouring electrons into the body, they get used up, if you run, if you're coming through the feet, then your body is using them up every anywhere and everywhere in the blood, the blood circulates once a minute. And so, it's carrying electrons all over the place, and they get used up. So, you don't necessarily get that you don't put the fire out as fast, you still put the fire over, you just have this a lot quicker. When you put the grounding. Like in this case, if you have an issue, ground as close to the issue as possible, either in the palm of the hand or the bottom of the foot is closest to that. Otherwise, put a patch right on it. Or wrap the throw around your leg or whatever makes you dabbing.
Lisa Beres
If you're having knee pain, wrap that blanket around your knees.
Clint Ober
Yeah, your body.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, you could spot treat basically with this.
Clint Ober
Yes. Okay. Yeah, just do what your body tells you to do. Where the pain is. Yeah.
Lisa Beres
Now, Brett, since you're on the call asked this question too, because you might be interested in this. If you stop grounding, if you stop it, like say bread or anyone listening gets their pad, they use it a couple times, and then they don't use it. Like, are the effects cumulative? Or is this something you really need to keep doing?
Clint Ober
While the effects are cumulative? Because you would every time you ground you put the fire out, you reduce inflammation in the body. And if you're grounded outdoors, living in nature, grounded all the time, you could not have inflammation in the human body. It's not possible. You'll still have the inflammatory cascades, but they are there they are short and they and they unwind naturally. But inflammation is a chronic fire in your body. You cannot have a chronic fire in your body. In nature, it�s not possible.
Lisa Beres
I'm just like, should you continue to do this every day? Yes. Yeah. So, this is something this is like brushing your teeth?
Clint Ober
This needs to be part of your life. So, you if you can, if you get a nice routine going and then ground anytime you possibly can outdoors with your bare feet, so on but it is cumulative. And if you go for a long period of time without grounding, then hit the inflammation will continue to build will start building back up. And then you feel the tingling, the more inflamed you are, the more you'll feel the tingling. If you if you go without grounding for a week you get a lot of people say, Well, I don't feel that energy anymore like I used to. And so, then I said, well just go spend a couple of days on grounded and come back. And then you'll feel the body surgeon charge back up.
Ron Beres
A clip art collar actually has the blanket. How long should he wear this blanket? I know, obviously, more than better, but just to get the effects of positive effects of grounding. Should he be wrapped in this an hour a day, half an hour a day.
Clint Ober
I always tell everybody is if you have pain unique if you if you have pain in your body of any kind. You need to get grounded and stay grounded until it goes away. Because this is inflammation. After can't say can't do it all in one period, then do it routinely until the inflammation goes away. I mean, yeah, and but that's how you know how much grounding you need is you have pain in your body, because you don't have pain in your body when you're not grounded. I'm 76 years old. I don't ram pain in my body. But I've got my feet on the ground, man. And I slept grounded last night. And I have a concrete floor.
Lisa Beres
So yeah, wow. Like a ground. You�re the grounding poster child.
Ron Beres
It�s a good thing when you say you're grounded. Clint. You're grounded.
Clint Ober
I walked my talk. I've got my 5000 steps first 5000 steps in. And I wear either wear conductive shoe or a or I walk barefoot.
Lisa Beres
Wow. So, Brett, if you're still there? Is your is your blanket a throw blanket? Or is it like a blanket? That's a full size that you would put on your bed?
Caller, Brett
I go to throw some of us on, you know, watching TV.
Lisa Beres
But could he just wrap that around like the bottom of his feet every night?
Clint Ober
Lay down and lay on like a sheet or use it as a cover. Okay, those are many. That's how I would recommend.
Ron Beres
Clint earlier you mentioned you said twice a day for 30 minutes, you can go out on your bare feet and get grounded. Does that same concept work now too. So, let's just say I got one-hour sleep on my bed, but I have the grounded pad. Is that good enough to get the bare bone benefits of grounding?
Clint Ober
While he you'll know because if you have pain, if you have pain afterwards, you need more. Yeah, okay, that wasn't what I was saying there is if you can't do anything else, you're you have no means or no money or any way to get grounded indoors, then the best thing you can do is to get grounded outdoors. 30 minutes in the morning after you wake up, get all the inflammation pain out of your body. Then after you go beat yourself up and bite the barrel along, come home at night, and all the coyotes are chewed on you. Then you go back outdoors and you ground yourself for another 30 minutes to discharge the trauma of the coyote Chase.
Lisa Beres
Amazing. This is so great. I hope I hope the listeners are loving this as much as me. I've watched the movie; I've had the pad and I've learned so much. Now, I know you kind of answered this, but just to just to reiterate, is it more beneficial if you have the choice to do the grounding outside barefoot versus your pad? Or would you say they're equal?
Clint Ober
Well, I mean, the idea of the pad was to replicate going outdoors and sleeping on there because we knew that that's you know, that's when the body heals and restores itself. And in nature, we always stopped on the air. So, they're identical in purpose and they will you'll get electrons either way. The if you have no money, you have no resources, you have no option you have to go ground, bare feet. But even if you don't, it's like in the afternoon, you know, it's like when you ground a child or you ground what you're saying is you want to you want to return them to normal. So, no matter what's going on in your life, you can be upset you can have whatever going on, but go outdoors and just sit on the earth for a few minutes. You can't be you can't be mad and angry when you're grounded.
Clint Ober
It�s true. It drains that stress out of them and then everybody's happy again. I mean wow you know it takes just you know 20 to 30 minutes and they're a different person.
Lisa Beres
I feel like we've solved the world's problems.
Clint Ober
Just get rid of the aches and pains. It changes the you know, your circulation improves. The paint everything on the year demeanor change. And then it's like I jelly every slide this is this is a beauty product because you're going to look 10 years younger in 30 minutes.
Lisa Beres
Right and I you know I read the benefits on your website, www.Earthing.com Yeah, aging backwards, so to speak. I mean, I know you don't really use those words, but you know, helping because that's inflammation, right?
Clint Ober
Because you're reducing the inflammation in the body goes to normal.
Lisa Beres
So, if you have leather soled shoes, which they still make, right? I mean, if you have leather soled shoes, you are getting grounded?
Clint Ober
Correct. If you wear them all the time, and they're hydrated, you know, have a little bit of, you know, in the old days, you used to wear them all the time. And they were always very conductive, because you had the body salts and the sweat perspiration from your feet, that you let them sit in a closet for a month, and put them on then they're pretty dry. They won't be as conductive. But they are semiconductor. So yes, they're better than not.
Lisa Beres
And I wonder it made me think about people in Africa and other countries where they are barefoot so often. And yeah, they do seem like you don't have the illness, the level of these crazy illnesses that you were talking about at the top of the show the autism and a lot of the autoimmune disorders, like we do here and you know, developed countries, and they're always barefoot, and we're always we always have shoes on even at the beach, you know?
Ron Beres
Does earthing help with weight loss? I remember during the movie, one of filmmakers, Rebecca, she actually lost weight by grounding herself.
Lisa Beres
A lot of weight, like 50 pounds.
Clint Ober
Yeah. Yeah, weight is, it's like anything, if you are full of stress, full of inflammation, then you're full of anxiety, irritability, ofttimes, depression, what do you do you eat? Yeah. And you don't, it's a chore to get up and go exercise and so on. So, when you get grounded, and you put up the fire of inflammation in your body, and your metabolism begins to normalize, then you have more energy. And so, it's easier to move. Grounding on by itself isn't going to cause you to lose weight. What it does is it puts out, it changes your mental psyche, it changes your metabolism, and now you can get rid of the inflammation. And then you're then you have energy, you it's easy to go out and get up and go for a walk or to eat better, or to do the things that are healthier.
Ron Beres
So, kind of shouldn't drop our gym membership. And just by grounding, we have to do both.
Clint Ober
But I'll tell you one thing about gyms and we work a lot with athletes, and we have for many, many years. And we've grounded hundreds of the most elite athletes in the world, including the Tour de France teams, and so on. But basically, when you exercise, you're creating a lot of inflammation in your body. And we did the studies up at the University of Oregon and Eugene, because they have all the athletes up there and, and so on. So, what we found was is when you go exercise, you're creating a lot of inflammation in your body. If you will ground yourself or 1530 minutes barefoot afterwards, then you discharge all that inflammation. Then when you go to bed, you don't have you don't wake up in the morning with all that aches and pains in your body. Wow, the delayed onset muscle soreness, you don't experience delayed onset muscle soreness, when you ground after your exercises. Otherwise you're doing in many cases, you're doing a lot of damage to your body with exercising. So, this balance, you need to discharge that inflammation that you created.
Ron Beres
You reduce the recovery time.
Lisa Beres
Yeah, especially runners. You know, runners, though, it's very hard on their body. So many people do marathons, they end up with so many knee problems and all of that. So, Clint, this has been absolutely incredible. I know. I had I had read that we recommend more vitamin g for everybody. Let's get your ground and get your earthing. I Is there any last thing you want to leave the listeners with besides visiting earthing calm?
Clint Ober
Well, yes, he is really I mean, if you get a chance to watch the movie, I think that fills in all the blanks. And those it's a very authentic movie. It's real people and real-life stories. And it's very credible, and you'll learn a lot from it. But beyond that is really health is the body's most natural state. If you do not have health, then something in your environment is interfering with your immune systems. ability to maintain your health, or something you're doing is stressing your immune system to the point that it can't maintain health. So rather than looking out there.
Lisa Beres
Yep, for that pill.
Clint Ober
There is no magic pill what you need to do, you need to get grounded. You need someone you need to reconnect with all of that natural that vitamin D from the sun. You need to open up get your Get your mind out of the way and just go back to nature for a while.
Lisa Beres
We all feel better after a vacation. Why is that? Because we're out in nature for like a week or you know, assuming you're taking vacation to beautiful, natural place. That's my idea of a vacation.
Well, thank you so much, Clint. This has been so incredible. We'd love to have you back.
Clint Ober
Anytime open to.
Lisa Beres
Okay, great.
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