113 | PARASITES? WORMS? Signs, Symptoms & Solutions

Lisa Beres 0:04

Music. How would you like to improve your health and keep your family safe? You're listening to the Healthy Home hacks podcast, where we firmly believe enjoying optimal health shouldn't be a luxury. Healthy Home authorities and husband and wife team, Ron and Lisa will help you create a home environment that will level up your health. It's time to hear from the expert. Listen in on honest conversations and gain the best tips and advice. If you're ready to dive in and improve your well being and increase your energy, you're in the right place. All right. Here are your hosts, bio biologists, authors, media darlings, vicarious vegans and avocado aficionados, Ron and Lisa Beres.

Ron Beres 0:51

Have you ever wondered if you might have parasites? I mean, they're more common. You think the CDC says more than 60 million people in the US are infected with parasites from anal itching imploding to sugar cravings and teeth grinding. I used to do this all the time, by the way, since making me think you may be experiencing signs of possible infestation right now, how

Lisa Beres 1:21

they are spread by your pets, undercooked meat. Yes, sorry, sushi lovers, contaminated water, food, soil, not washing your hands before eating or drinking and more, which is making them an increasingly common health threat. Yes, they thrive in warm weather, so the risk rises in the summer, and there's a full moon connection that our guest is going to share. So stay tuned. According to the Cleveland Clinic, parasites are organisms that live on in or with another organism, the host. They see grow or multiply in a way that harms their host, and in this case, us, they need a host for their survival, so they rarely kill their host, but they often carry diseases that can be life threatening. Many people may not even notice they have an infection because they have few symptoms. Others may have a serious illness. Curious if your symptoms could be linked to parasites. Want to know how to tackle and how to prevent them. You are in the right place. Our guest today is going to dish all of the dirt. Kim

Ron Beres 2:26

Rogers is a seasoned wellness professional with over 18 years of experience in western medicine. Kim's journey in the medical field took an unexpected turn when her own health challenges led her on a transformative path struggling with endometriosis, parasites, Lyme disease and mold poisoning. At the doozy, wow, she embarked on a personal quest to stop taking pharmaceuticals and strive for a more holistic and natural approach inspired

Lisa Beres 2:55

by her own healing journey, Kim founded Rogers hood apothecary and invented the globally known best selling and viral terrify parasite cleanse kit. This kit consists of handmade herbal tinctures aimed at detoxing unwanted parasites, worms, Candida, heavy metals and toxins, while also promoting health and well being. Roger hood gained widespread recognition after Kim's personal results about parasites went viral on Tiktok and Instagram, gaining millions of views and hundreds of 1000s of followers, crowning her the worm Queen

Ron Beres 3:34

by sharing her experiences and knowledge, she is here with us today to help you embark on your own journey. In fact, we're currently in day 17 of our 30 day cleanse. Do I look shaky? I'm not sure. Am I too crying, or am I just nervous? What's going on? Kim, right. So we have actually seen this first pan, I have to tell you. So we've done the baths, and we did see a worm. Yes, we did see a worm. We saw many things that were absolutely disgusting, Kim, but we appreciate you. And without further ado, welcome to the show. Worm queen,

Lisa Beres 4:07

guys, that was so good. Thank you. It's too fun this topic. How can you not have fun with it?

Kim Rogers 4:15

Right? Yeah, right. Like it's serious, but you have to smile when you talk about it.

Lisa Beres 4:21

People are like, ooh, gross, and then they're Googling it right after right like, Why have worms?

Ron Beres 4:27

Can you ever imagine, like when you were in high school? Like, one day I'll be called the worm queen

Lisa Beres 4:33

or aspiration senior yearbook, future worm.

Kim Rogers 4:39

Future worm Queen goals.

Lisa Beres 4:43

Well, welcome. We're so glad you're with us. I'm so happy that we connected. We connected on social and I mean, Ron and I did our first parasite cleanse when we got married, actually, I think it was the week like, before we got married, Ron, and it was the wooing state. So Ron was like, oh. Yeah, I'm doing what I'm doing a parasite cleanse. I'm like, Yep, so it was

Ron Beres 5:02

like, swing dancing, doing warming cleanses.

Lisa Beres 5:07

But your cleanse is, I must say, so much more robust than, like, the cleanses we had done in the past. But before we get into that, can you tell our listeners a little bit about your story, and how did you get started in this?

Kim Rogers 5:18

Right? It's so wild because I really didn't like parasites in the field. When I worked in the field, I left urgent care because I didn't like scabies and legacy worms.

It's kind of ironic Here I am, but now I love it. I love what I'm doing. I find it fascinating, and the fact that, like, we don't really even realize that this is happening to us, not realizing that it could this is happening to us. And the number from the CDC of 60 million is all documented, but we don't have great testing in our country, right, right? Those are documented. I'm not in that 60 million, which I know I had parasites, because literally, I had to send my stool to Mexico and my water. Oh, wow. Just so you know that that number When I 95% of people have parasites, that's more accurate, right? I was like, I know she's gonna have something to say about that, because 60 million, they always under do these numbers anyway, right? Because we're not like how many people are being tested on a regular basis for toxins, let alone parasites, right? Or it documented correctly for it, because when they test it. So I tested my stool with an independent lab and lab core, which is where those numbers come from. Western medicine Labs is where that number comes from, and I tested positive from the independent lab and negative,

wow, own health journey and finding out that I had mold I'd been a year into our business so, and then Lyme was just in 23 so really, like, Lyme was recent for you, okay, oh, wow, oh, I'm still in my own health journey, but like, therapy for me is to help other people, and that's really what I saw when I started going viral. I had done my piece, my husband and I got our affairs in order in 2019

and we moved out to our recreational property. We knew there was only two options for me, and I wasn't looking good. And in the field, we call it circling the drain. Well, I was looking bad. I was feeling bad. No doctor could help me. I had been in surgeries deep. I've had a hysterectomy. Oh my. I really was not doing well, and so my husband quit his job, and I quit my careers, which I used to run 25 healthcare colleges. I've authored medical books. I was a professor, and wow, healthcare degrees. So this is to add that to your website and then see that I know I'm on the about page,

yeah. So I'm very seasoned in the medicine and I'm seasoned in the human body. I love it. I find it very fascinating. But I come to myself and it's like, oh, I can't really figure out what's going on with me. So spin and I decided in 2019 to move out to our recreational property and build a log home, which we did. We built it ourselves, just, yeah, like an 1800 square foot, beautiful log home. So it's, can you say, where? Oh, yeah, hoods, Port Washington. Oh, okay, so it's like two hours from Seattle. That's where Mrs. Rogers hood came from.

Lisa Beres 9:17

I was gonna ask you, okay, it's called, what's it called? Port hood woods. Port hood sport,

Kim Rogers 9:23

yeah, we call it the hoods. So I'm like, Well, I'm Rogers and Mr. Rogers Neighborhood. I'm like, I'll just play off that. That's so

Lisa Beres 9:34

cute. Yeah, yeah. And you had a big weight loss journey as part of this too, right? Yeah, was that just from the parasite cleanse, or was that kind of, everything, all of the healing, kind of,

Kim Rogers 9:44

all of it, that's kind of what. So there was two indications that what I was doing to curve and change my health wasn't necessarily working, and something else was going on because I couldn't lose weight. So 2019, I really got into. It, and I started doing mushrooms. My husband started growing functional, illegal Mushrooms,

Ron Beres 10:08

mushrooms, having concerts and wearing tie dye,

Lisa Beres 10:13

going to raves. She felt better.

Kim Rogers 10:18

I just needed to figure out what was wrong. And I'm like, I guess if I'm gonna do that, I might as well, like, have a few trips here and there too, right?

Lisa Beres 10:25

Are you real Seriously, though, that kind of Messiah? Oh, okay, that's hilarious. Did that help, or was that

Kim Rogers 10:36

it helped so much, really, when you're chronically ill and you have PTSD and anxiety, and I had medical neglect PTSD. PTSD breaks the neurons in your brain, and Plymouth and lions, mean, can actually go in and heal that. And so we did a lot of research on different types of mushrooms that I could take to assist me while either figuring out where I'm gonna end up or to help me heal. And so I was doing fabulous, but my weight and my skin were terrible, and I'm like, Well, this is a huge indication that something else is going on. And so it was 21 so I was about a year into really diving deep into my journey and doing mushrooms on a daily I would really just sit in the because I lived on the outskirts of a rainforest. So I would sit and just really meditate and really dig. And I kept hearing cleansing, hearing like, you know, check the water. So of course. I'm like, oh, so weird. Okay, great, very structured. So I'm like, this is weird. So I opened my Tiktok, and this girl had said that she couldn't lose weight and her anxiety was terrible from worms. And I had thought I had worms a few years before, and I questioned my doctors about it, because I would have itchy but during the moon, and I would have breakouts, and I would have all of the things, and I went to get a biopsy, and it was gone. And they didn't, couldn't figure out why this area bio that there was a biopsy that was supposed to be done, and there wasn't anything. I go old. Do you think I could have like, worms? And they're like, No, we don't have no who was that country?

Lisa Beres 12:25

Yeah, no, not

Kim Rogers 12:26

Yeah. Mexico, even though they let their people deworm with pharmaceuticals that they can just literally go in and buy themselves, they don't need to have a prescription for theirs and that kind of Yeah. Bend is all Ben. Ben is all Alina. They actually allow you just to go in. And they kind of require it in certain things like school and sport, because pin worms are so contagious, right? They get into your body and they're thread worms, and it's a whole like, they understand you can

Lisa Beres 12:57

inhale them, right? Can't you inhale Okay, yeah, there's a lot of so diabolical, isn't it? Yeah, right. There's a lot of doctors over the years. Dr Doris Rapp, she's a famous pediatrician. She started noticing, like, check your kids butt at night with the flashlight, put a piece of tape. I know it sounds gross, but and see, and you'll know right away if they have worms. And she was so cutting edge. I mean, she was back in the Phil Donahue days and talking about this, and people were like, what? And Dr Clark, Dr holda Clark, are you familiar with her? Yes,

Kim Rogers 13:29

my daughter broke back here,

Lisa Beres 13:31

the cure for all diseases. She was like, parasites, heavy metals, toxins. These are the root of all illness, right? Yeah.

Kim Rogers 13:38

Well, they are weighted down by the heavy metals, and they have a biofilm wrapped around them so they're protected, like they're very smart, they're stealthy, they're opportunists. They know how to be hidden, and that's why, when I say that number is wrong, 60 million, they're just in a cycle. In those moments that someone might test positive, I see that thing is, they cycle, so you have to go in three to four times a year. That's why we say three to four times a year with purify or with symptoms. If you're on parasite cleanse and you're about to get off of it and you're still having symptoms, then you've just cycled them in, and you need to continue your

Lisa Beres 14:15

really, okay, that's good to know. So if you're in the cleanse and you're like, I'm still not feeling Keep going. Keep going. Okay, oh, good. You

Ron Beres 14:21

don't stop it, but you can go on as long as you want. Can it be like a daily maintenance that you do for the rest of your life? It

Kim Rogers 14:27

can be okay. I do it when I eat questionably or when I'm traveling. And then we give 40 days worth of purify in that kit. So we don't just like all of a sudden 30 days and it stops. Okay, gotcha. Because you can continue and finish the 40, or you can do the 30. And then in between, the maintenance could be the five days, because I gave enough to do five days over the full moon.

Lisa Beres 14:52

Oh, so you should always do, oh so once a month, and every month, yeah, you can buy five

Kim Rogers 14:56

days once a month, and I give you enough to do that, I intentionally put in. All of these herbs, and I put in all of the ways that you can do it, because this is so overwhelming, because it's so weird, and people don't necessarily want to talk about it because it's so odd. People will be like, you have worms. I have worms. I'm okay with it,

Ron Beres 15:14

but you don't now.

Lisa Beres 15:16

So Kim, what is it? Wait. I want to show her her sheet that comes with it, because I thought it was so thorough, Kim and just so helpful, like the die off symptoms, the Herxheimer reaction, like what to expect and what's in it. And you did such a good job, including that. It's not overwhelming, because you package it so nicely. You know exactly what to do. You know it's like three tinctures, three times, plus shirts. I call it the Cinnabon. I told Ron,

Unknown Speaker 15:46

you take your Cinnabon. Yeah,

Lisa Beres 15:51

yeah. But that's, you know, and, like I was saying, the clove, the wormwood and the walnut, black walnut hull is pretty common that you'll find in a lot of like over the counter parasite cleanses. But after watching a lot of your videos and reading a lot, you know, you realize why that's not enough and why you have to tackle the heavy metals. Because, you know, I can tell we've done it before, and nothing changed, like you could just tell nothing you don't feel any different. That's a great point, and those didn't have the heavy metal aspect. So can you tell us why that's such an important part? Well, they're weighted

Kim Rogers 16:24

down. Okay? So if you look at each one of the herbs, they have their own frequency for that ailment. So wormwoods, ailment frequency is parasites. There's multiple other things for it, but that's, you know, what it's really known for? Okay, and it's about like an opera singer when she sings and her voice gets to the same frequency as glass and it shatters. That's what I'm doing with the herbs. I So, oh, that's well said, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah. I don't people understand how, when they take a pharmaceutical, it's the frequency of that pharmaceutical that's creating just that frequency when you're doing something like this, you've got a bacteria, a virus. Those things are being dropped while you're removing the parasite, right? So you can never have Epstein Barr Virus, but it's been living inside of the body of this worm. Oh, and then you're not correctly removing that virus with an herb like usnia, okay? And so I added all of those herbs in there because each one of them has a responsibility while you're parasite cleansing. Oh, that's

Lisa Beres 17:36

so interesting. It's such a cohesive kit, yeah, getting rid of the Trojan horse. Is this true? Could you see like a parasite moving and your skin from underneath? Could you see it like climbing up your leg, you know, or in your arm?

Kim Rogers 17:51

I did not, but I do have videos of people that have sent me where they've got a hookworm, because that's usually ones. You can see, I have them swim out of my feet in the fulvic. And I have that on video. You're doing very viral on fulvic. Viral.

Lisa Beres 18:07

That's crazy. Is it tiny? Because the one that I saw looked like a tiny, tiny speck of thread, until I put the camera in the flashlight, and then I saw it moving. I don't know if it

Kim Rogers 18:18

was such a live worm. It's a wow. It's still alive. It's a thread worm.

Ron Beres 18:21

A thread worm. Wait, how do you get those? Are those from just, they're like pin

Kim Rogers 18:25

worms. They are pin worms. So pin worms people know, like the butt, right? That's when you have itchy butt. But thread worms are internal, and usually people that blow them out their nose or be in our heart and our lungs, and then they swim and, you know, they live in our blood, our tissue and our muscles, so it's not like they're just in our gut,

Lisa Beres 18:45

right, right? Yeah, so that's what I saw, okay? And I'm sure there was more. I just only zoomed in because it didn't look like anything. It just looked like a tiny little piece of thread. And then I'm showing around the video like, Oh my god. He's like, we

Ron Beres 18:58

have not been in the tub since, no matter how much we cleaned it, we did not go back.

Lisa Beres 19:04

But that's good. You want these things out of your body. You don't want to win, right, right as gross. So

Ron Beres 19:09

Kim, how does it feel? You're part of the 5% you have no parasites. You just walk around. Is it you feel enlightened, which

Lisa Beres 19:15

goes to the backscatter at the airport? Wow. What do you

Ron Beres 19:22

do you do when you see another 5% person? You just, like, wink at them. Or what do you do? Yeah,

Kim Rogers 19:26

like, our frequencies are, like,

Lisa Beres 19:30

we need names for that, right? Like, I see third eye, wink.

Ron Beres 19:35

Okay. Getting back to the matter at hand, what are some of the common myths about parasites? Because I know, gosh, a couple decades ago, I thought like, wow, that's an unfortunate third world problem for people, and we don't have that here in the US. What are some other common myths about parasites? Well, I

Kim Rogers 19:51

live in the first world country of the United States, is what they call us, right? I live here and I live in western medicine country. So there are a lot of Western medicine countries that have parasites, and I do know because I ship them worldwide. Yeah, right. I know the top three countries really cannot argue when I receipts. So

Lisa Beres 20:15

you do Okay, that's good to know. Listeners, her kids, she can ship them anywhere. That's awesome. And what else was I going to say about that? So the

Kim Rogers 20:23

top, you know, misconceptions of all of this is that is humans can't catch them, and we very much can. We can catch them out of fish, which is really sad, because I love sushi. I love salmon. In fact, if you do want to be more conscientious when you're eating salmon, you want to make sure the cut is the furthest away from the belly, and that comes from the Seattle pike market, because talk with them all the time. They know who I am, and I've interviewed them. And I'm like, so show me some fish, and then show me the worms. And they're like, fish have worms. So which ones do you want to see? I'm like, Well, which one you're the least expected for people to see. Oh, really. So they pull it out, and hell of it, and they show me, and I'm like, Oh snap. Like, yeah, those are worms. Yeah, yeah, sure.

Lisa Beres 21:09

Are they moving, yes? Well, you're buying the fish raw, so they would be alive, or are they?

Kim Rogers 21:14

Sometimes they are and you can't freeze. This is another misconception. You cannot freeze them to death. You can't boil them only to really make sure. So all these people, when I show all of this salmon that's on my account, everybody goes, just freeze it. Here's the thing. I also have video showing that a 46,000 year old worm that was in permafrost woke up and started eating and giving no, oh, my does not do anything, everything, no matter if it's wild caught or not, is warmly prior to getting to you,

Speaker 1 21:49

46,000 year old, wow, yeah, a rock, a Russian

Lisa Beres 21:54

year old. Big reveal, the awakening. Forget, forget Disney. It's about the worm we want to bring back. That is crazy. Yeah. I mean, I've seen the Costco videos of the salmon. I've seen these on Instagram too. And we're vegan, so we don't have to worry about it with the fish. But you can get it on produce. You can get parasites on produce, right?

Kim Rogers 22:16

Yeah, I don't eat raw produce out when I'm in the world, really only at home, because I don't know how they prepared it. Yeah, I don't know what they did. Everything I eat has to be cooked. And I'm really good friends with a gentleman who went to Haiti, and he got very sick, and he's like, Oh, I'm vegan. All I did was eat, like, salads and stuff. And he was like, but that's where I caught my parasite and it made me sick. So you don't really know and my water, and I was washing my produce with my contaminated water. Oh, when you were traveling abroad, no, when I lived on our property. Oh, I lived on your power I found out that I had more parasites. So I already knew I had parasites by this point, and then I dug deeper to find out that they were in my water. So I've been tested our water in Seattle, and it is contaminated as well in Seattle because our

Lisa Beres 23:09

city water. So the city water, and you had, did you have well water out at that? Well, it was a community. Well, okay, yeah, city water too. Isn't that crazy? People are really naive when it comes to the water. I mean, it's such a big topic in terms of, like toxins too, like the lead and the PFAs in the water. And, yes, obviously we've got chlorine and fluoride and heavy metals. And people think they would chlorine kills everything, but the fact that, oh

Kim Rogers 23:35

yeah, and chlorine and Cryptosporidium parvium, which is what I had, actually love each other. They hang out together. Oh, wow. And so they don't test our water in our country for nematodes, which are physical worms, okay, but they will test it periodically for parasites which are like defray GE leaves, giardia and crypto. So they'll test it for that, but they won't test it for physical worms, like we have physical worms in the water there and here. And it's funny because Seattle lights, and I'm lived here for 10 years, they're like, so what do you mean? You don't want the Seattle tap water? It's the best in the world. And I'm all you know, like, I have received, not I have

Lisa Beres 24:17

lab. That's I have labs to prove you wrong. So there's

Ron Beres 24:20

basically, like worms in the water,

Kim Rogers 24:25

right? Those ones you can't see it's larvae, is what they tested positive for, for roundworm. And it's round

Lisa Beres 24:30

worm, okay, yeah, but you wouldn't see that, you know?

Kim Rogers 24:33

So we just shower with filters. All of our water is filtered in our house because I my teeth once or twice or three times, with the water and the travel trailer that we're living in, which is where I found out I had mold,

Lisa Beres 24:47

so you wouldn't need to get better, and then you got worse, because I went there and

Kim Rogers 24:51

I got sick, and so did my husband, because we were being in our travel trailer while we were building our log home on our property, right as for drill snap. Poisoning. That's what we ended up having, is black, toxic mold. But I would have never known that we were living like that if I hadn't parasite cleansed, because I had done like, a full year of cleansing, right? And then I stopped, because they live harmoniously together. And when I removed the parasites, the mold took over. Oh, I started swelling shot. And I'm like, on video, because I was a year into this, right? I'm, like, started our business. We're so busy and viral. I just kept going, and I kept researching, and I found the mold, and I had my body tested, and I have mold, and so it kind of then just, and that's the cool thing about when you start with parasites, is that is a root cause. It might not be your only root cause, but it is a root cause of chronic illness.

Lisa Beres 25:47

Sound by right? There parasites are a root cause of chronic illness. Yeah. And then you go to the doctor, and they give you the pill to mask the symptom, and then you just perpetually living in the sick state, right? The sick care industry, and we talk about this a lot,

Kim Rogers 26:03

and then when they do give you, like a pill for an anti parasitic, you're not binding, so they're not even telling you how to do a quote, unquote cleanse correctly, right? They're gonna give you three days worth of an anti parasitic and they lay eggs on their way out. Oh, I see. So that's where this so important that you then follow it up with herbs. But while you're doing the anti parasitic synthetic that's what I call them, because that's what it is, is a synthetically driven drug that will go in and assist with this you need to bind and not medical advice. But this is what I did, and then you have to follow it up with a purify, cleanse with herbs, because herbs are like my kit is all All right. So you could be taking a synthetic for a tapeworm, but right, your only worm in your body?

Lisa Beres 26:55

Oh, yes, that makes total sense, and the synthetic wouldn't do that. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah,

Kim Rogers 27:01

so more than I think anyone ever wants to dive into, and that's probably why I'm so viral, because I'll dive into it have people understand like I am a totally different person than I

Lisa Beres 27:13

You look different. I saw that video I wanted to show Ron. I didn't get to it, but where it quickly transitions how you looked before, and then you look like a totally different person. Here we go, wow, oh my god, is that when you were living on the like a totally different person? The 5% Kim, it's just the energy though, like the light is back in your eyes and your face and your skin, and it's amazing. So this is gross, but I thought I'd say it because I had learned this before the the reason the parasites go to the anal area, then that makes the person itch, and then the person itches, and then next thing you know, they're rubbing their nose, right? So they're smart, and they're recycling back into your or they're putting their hand in their ear or their mouth. And isn't that true? Is that why they because they're very smart, right? Parasites are very

Kim Rogers 28:00

smart. So smart, yeah, and not just that, but you're kind of fertilizing them like you're really being them reproduced when you reach them. And so that's why they're coming out, is to lay their eggs, and then you ingest them, and then they're all the way down, and then they're able to go into multiple different layers of your body, specifically, like your lungs and your heart, and that's a scary thing, because I was having terrible breathing issues. Now, I know, and

Lisa Beres 28:29

who would have thought? Never, they never would have thought, no one's going to connect that. Yeah, it came a

Ron Beres 28:33

little off topic. I saw a video once of a praying mantis, and it was taken over by this parasite that basically controlled its whole horse hair worm, oh, my goodness, so free surround. It's not alive anymore. But the parasite, how big is it? Because

Kim Rogers 28:49

they're long. I have a video on my phone that I was gonna, man, they like to be, yeah? But because praying mantises can be huge, right? And the thing is, is they control. So the way you think about this is that parasites control and mold brainwashes, and so parasites will control your mind. And if you're familiar with toxoplasmosis, which is the cat parasite, I will go over in case someone's not,

Lisa Beres 29:22

yeah, at least, because people with cats, listen, yes, people, and

Kim Rogers 29:25

I'm not saying that rid of your cat. I'm saying, though, that you should be conscientious that this is a possibility, and they could get tested and they say, like, 60% of the population has toxoplasmosis. So when I talk about this, it's not just pregnant women that can get it. They say, Don't scoop cat litter while you're pregnant because it is one of the few parasites that they say can cross over to your baby while you're pregnant. That's why they say to not do it. And Patricia Arquette actually has toxo, and her child, her daughter, has toxo as well. Oh, wow. Our daughter, so she's a big advocate on toxoplasmosis. But the way you got to think about how parasites control our mind is that when a mouse or a rat have toxo, they go and cuddle up to the cat, because toxo has brainwashed them to say, you have no fear. And so the next stage of toxo is an enzyme in the cat's gut. So the mouse goes to the cat and says, Hey, eat me. Basically, the cat eats the mouse, and then it goes to the next stage of toxo, then making toxo strong, and then, oh my god, the poop. And you get toxo. And we

Lisa Beres 30:41

just by inhaling, just from inhaling, by

Kim Rogers 30:45

not washing your hands with your cat. And it's not just like I've had people in my DMs that got it from deer. They were hunting and they cut themselves, and they cut the deer's blood, and they mixed and they got toxo plant from it. And studies show that people that died on crotch rockets, they actually had toxo promiscuous women or men talk so because you don't have that fear anymore, it goes in and it blows your mind. Oh, really, think about how crazy that one parasite is. Oh, think about like Candida. Candida is a parasite. We all have yeast. It's an overgrowth of yeast. Anything that feeds off a host is a parasite. And it makes you want sugar. It controls what you want to eat. It's that. So when you're like, Why did I do that? That's not me. It probably wasn't you. It was probably

Lisa Beres 31:39

or your parents. So the risky the toxoplasmosis, causes risky behavior in humans correct. So you've got someone that's a super adrenaline junkie, they should get that. Oh, wow. And

Kim Rogers 31:51

I was watching a Joe Rogan show, because Joe Rogan talks a lot about parasites. Actually

Lisa Beres 31:55

quite crazy that it's nice that it's done mainstream. Yeah,

Kim Rogers 31:59

way more mainstream, but it's crazy, because people will listen, and then they'll be like, Oh yeah, that doesn't apply to me, but it does. And so he said that people down in like fighters, will go and get toxo on purpose, so that they don't have a fear when they're crying out. And I'm all that's wild, because you can never get rid of it. You always you can in your body. It's always dormant. If your symptoms go away, but you can never get rid of it.

Lisa Beres 32:27

Your kid, wow. So your cleanse, it will help the symptoms.

Kim Rogers 32:30

My cleanse, quote, unquote, never cures anything, okay, but the symptoms will go into a remission. And when you're in remission, then you're symptom free, and then it so

Ron Beres 32:43

you're get rid of the mother house. When you go through these parasite cleanses. Might no longer have that no more. Yes, you

Lisa Beres 32:49

have to go through this cycle, like she was saying, you don't want to, kind of like an antibiotic. You don't want to cut it short, right? But this is different. You don't want to cut it short, because you'll just end up back where

Ron Beres 32:58

you start. And then, so there's a 60% chance that I am fearless.

Lisa Beres 33:03

I had cats, yep, but we've done our cleanse. Oh yeah, we could still have it in us. You

Kim Rogers 33:08

know? The thing is, you would really know that you have plasmosis And again, achingly dormant, and then we have a lot of viruses and bacteria in our body that we just don't even know. And they like, I have Epstein Barr Virus. I had been tested numerous times, including my spinal fluid for it, and it came back negative, and I have it. So just shows you how sneaky

Ron Beres 33:35

they are. Well, words are powerful. You no longer have it. Kim, right? Yeah,

Kim Rogers 33:40

I'm chronically healing. That's what I say with chronically healing. I love it, yeah, because I am, like, these things are just labels, and a lot of labels are for insurance, and they're all treated very similar. That's the thing. And I worked in the field, so I really do understand how insurance works and how labels work. Yes, no. Honestly, I'm really grateful that I have the medical experience in western medicine that I do, because it does help me understand when I'm talking to people,

Lisa Beres 34:15

right? You do it in a very relatable way too, like you can tell that you're so knowledgeable about the topic, but you do it in very relatable way, which I think is great. So I gotta go into a little pop culture question here. I'm sure you saw all the Instagrams on brandy Glanville, the housewife, Beverly Hills, housewife, ex housewife with she says she has a parasite in her face. Doctors hearing her face. Do you believe that's a parasite? I know she hasn't, like treated it yet, I don't think, yeah,

Kim Rogers 34:42

so we've reached out to her camp, and we've spoken to a couple of people that are around her, and they've spoken to her too, and there is a possibility that she'll do our cleanse at some point, but I think it was really overwhelming, and me, I went really viral over talking. About it. So I feel like that needed to die down last month, and then I'll reach back out to them. But her team understands that, like, this is a thing, and yes, I think it's just really embarrassing. So I feel like that's kind of where she's at with it. But I Yeah, it's a parasite. They can go in and wreak havoc like that. There's multiple different types that can do that. Also, RFK, who we all know, who that is, RFK, Jr, tapeworm. He has neurosis or psychosis, and he had a tapeworm eat part of his brain, and he defaults that information at the in his book, right? Well, yeah, and he's talked about it when he was talking about health. So I'm still shocked that like this I know more of a thing, because, yeah, so I remember

Lisa Beres 35:48

Dr Oz did a show. Dr Oz did a show on it years ago, and people were like, oh, and Ron and I were at that time. We were already had done a couple cleanses. We're like, why is everyone freaking out about it? I

Kim Rogers 35:58

was actually slated to be on Dr Oz that Friday that he announced on Monday that he was gonna run and canceled him. And so my show was Friday. But, you know, the CEO of our business, so I really don't think we would have been able to handle it at the time. Yeah,

Lisa Beres 36:16

the amount of Exactly, yeah, he's awesome. We've been on the show twice. He's, yeah, mold, and then another one was just health toxins in the home. We talked about pesticides and all kinds of things. Mold again, and he is. It's a bummer that his show's not around. He's the real deal, and he is one of the nicest, most hard working people that you'll meet in the biz. That's cool, for sure. Maybe,

Kim Rogers 36:39

okay, so we'll never know.

Lisa Beres 36:42

Put it out there. Maybe they'll come back. So give listeners some ideas that they might have parasites. So we talked about anal itching, teeth grinding. What else? Well, if you have pets, if you have pets, yeah, okay. And what can you do? Like some of these people are kissing their dogs. They're letting their cats on the counter near the food. I mean,

Kim Rogers 37:04

it's just like good sanitary practices, what you would say, or Yeah, and do them. Deworming yourself, deworming them, deworming everyone, because we deworm them. So right? You should all do it as a family. If you have pets you, I'm gonna gather to say you probably got parasites too. So really, and IBS is a big one skin issues. We've had a lot of people do paraphy Where they had eczema and it's gone away psoriasis and it's gone away or died down a lot, every time they do the cleanse. But I also put herbs in there to assist with that for skin. So, you know, it's a kind of a combination of the things. If you have anemia, you more than likely have a hookworm, not medical, but hookworms absorb iron. Okay, yeah, so they like lay on the side of your vein, like looking and feeling like your vein, and then the iron just absorbs and weighs down them even political to your veins. So that's how the symptoms continue to go. So if you're anemic, I definitely would do a parasite cleanup. Yeah, it's not going to hurt you. That, right? That like, I think people think, oh my gosh, this can no man, it's just really going to just inflammation is going to go down, your mucus is going to be broken up, your skin's going to glow. And I really want the skin to glow so that people can really see results outward, because then they'll keep going.

Lisa Beres 38:29

But that's great. That's Those are great tips. The sugar one's a big one. I clearly must have had a lot of parasites earlier in life, and of course, we had pets. I had such a sweet tooth, I had to have something sweet after every dinner, something whether it was a little bit of chocolate or cookie. And Ron knows I don't eat sweets. Yeah, I don't even want it. Like, if I go to a party and there's cake or, well, what vegan cake? But yeah, no, I'm like, not even vegan cupcakes. I'm like, no, no, thanks. I just don't crave sugar, right? So because we

Kim Rogers 39:00

you're not craving it. You're a parasite.

Lisa Beres 39:05

Yeah, I should name him, her. Which one is it that craves the sugar?

Kim Rogers 39:10

Well, can round worm really live off of sugar? Well, they all live off of sugar. I just did a video, actually, where I showed parasites and a cube of sugar. Someone put it under a microscope, and you can just see them. They're like, they're on crack. It's their crack. They live and love sugar. They will like themselves for sugar. It's why,

Lisa Beres 39:31

right? Yeah, that's crazy, yeah. Because I remember I had a co worker who had Candida was his way back, and then back then they didn't really have good Candida stuff. And they were like, well, you have to starve it. You have to starve the Candida. She was on this, like, really, really, really strict diet, because, you know, bread turns to sugar, right? Pasta, carbs turn to sugar, rice, all of that. So sugar, no sugar means, like, you're really just and even fruits have sugar, right? Yeah,

Kim Rogers 39:57

you have to be careful of some fruits where. Really restrictive on our food guide of what, like watermelon. Because of it, I actually chose the strictest diet, the Candida diet, with our cookbook, okay, oh, okay.

Lisa Beres 40:09

What is it called your cookbook? It's just the community

Kim Rogers 40:14

cookbook that we created for people to have a guide for when they're parasite. Everything I do is free, so you can go into my links, and you can download the Fast Track guide that shows you how to start cleansing and how to open up your Pathways. We have a drainage guide, we have a cookbook, and then we have a 600 page book, if you'd like to identify your

Lisa Beres 40:32

worms. Oh, wow, if you can see them all right, yeah, because I had like

Kim Rogers 40:36

20,000 pictures, because I've been doing this for so long, wow, wow. So I went through and I picked out the best pictures, so you can go in, and I did multiple different versions of roundworm and egg, mucoid plaque, Candida, when it comes out and like sheets, it looks like drier sheets. But yeah, and I kind of teach you in that book also what roundworm is. And so, right,

Lisa Beres 40:58

yeah, it's all for the one that the worms that came out of your feet. How big were they? Mine was about this.

Kim Rogers 41:03

It was thin, like a thread,

Lisa Beres 41:06

but it was like a foot, yeah?

Kim Rogers 41:10

But like, oh, okay, wham, that's what freaked me out.

Lisa Beres 41:19

Yeah, I forget Josh.

Kim Rogers 41:21

Oh, my God. It was terrible. I you know, I've started the video, and I put my feet in and I said, Oh, I don't feel anything. Is this what it feels like when people are messaging me, they're disappointed that they didn't see anything. And so I'm sitting there, and all of a sudden I felt something move, and I grabbed my phone again, because I would never believe the server wasn't on film. I would never right. No one would believe it. Yeah. Like, right. I have to go back and watch it sometimes, because I'm like, This is so wild.

Lisa Beres 41:48

And so did you have to pull it out, or did it just come out to

Kim Rogers 41:52

swim? Multiple ones swam out. There's, like, a fluke that's in the water. And then my husband had round worm come out of his way. How

Ron Beres 42:00

can a fluke come out of your foot? Because they're like, little almond size, you

Kim Rogers 42:04

know how skinny they are? Do you know, like they're just,

Lisa Beres 42:07

oh, they can malleable, yeah? Like a pumpkin seed though, right? The flukes, yeah? But they're like,

Kim Rogers 42:12

thin, they can do any they can squish, yeah? And they keep on my foot, yeah, I have a mark still on my foot. Do you

Lisa Beres 42:21

really do

Kim Rogers 42:22

from coming out? Oh my gosh. Oh my did it hurt? It didn't hurt. It just felt weird. Like I felt movement, like you lost a friend,

Lisa Beres 42:35

wow, oh my god. And then you probably wanted to jump out of the tub, but then you're also like, but no, because I want this stuff coming out. So I gotta stay

Kim Rogers 42:41

right. Yeah, and it was the most bizarre, wow. I need to find those videos sci fi. Like, all you have to do is type in fulvic worm, Queen foot soak, and I'm sure I'll pop up.

Lisa Beres 42:52

Wow, on like YouTube. Are they on YouTube? Tick tock, YouTube,

Kim Rogers 42:56

Insta, tick tock, Google. Everywhere. I'm everywhere

Lisa Beres 43:01

that is, that is

Ron Beres 43:03

crazy. Hey, can we tease this earlier in the podcast? I want to make sure we get this addressed. What does the full moon have to do with parasites?

Lisa Beres 43:11

Yes, tell us what is the full moon.

Kim Rogers 43:13

Okay, so there are two versions of this. They both equal the same one. So bear with me. All right. So the French folklore say that you should do three days prior to the full moon, because they start to dislodge themselves out of your body, and they hop on the serotonin River, and then they're able to make their way through your body and replant their homes in other places your body runs higher during the full moon of serotonin, and that's just physiologically like science, right? And so, because they live off of the serotonin, and that's your happy hormone, they're able to make you feel crazy, lower your vibration and make their way through your body, replanting themselves more. So the French say to start three days prior to the full moon. And they say that because they eat snails, and snails have a parasite, worm called shtamyosin and just a myosin actually coats your bladder and your kidneys. Oh, yeah. So de worming and have for a long time specifically because they eat snails, and they just stop eating 50% of them, at one point, had toxo in France. Explain a lot

Lisa Beres 44:35

the snails did. No snails, humans, oh, the humans, 50%

Kim Rogers 44:40

Yeah, they test 50% have talk. So I don't know if they still have it, but this, that's

Lisa Beres 44:44

why the French get a bad rap of being being snooty. They're not snooty. They're just saying talk. So, so that's like, oh, the full moon. People are crazy. So that's where that comes from. Yeah, yes

Kim Rogers 44:59

and so. Then their other flip side is that you just start the parasite cleanse on the full moon, but we recommend three days prior to the full moon, because I do believe I had shishamycin as well, and I never read snails, but I did go into fresh water. Oh, that is how you can catch shishtamyosin, right?

Lisa Beres 45:16

Are you thinking your whole life and all of your exposures, and your whole entire life, right? I mean, some of these parasites, I'm guessing, we've had since your childhood, right? Decades? Yeah, and they're not going they're not going anywhere, and they get so exposed from

Kim Rogers 45:29

your mom, because breastfeeding, that's a pathway, and if you ever cleanse, and then you have a baby and you breastfeed. But I also believe there's so many other ways that you can catch them, but rivers, lakes,

Lisa Beres 45:42

yeah, fresh, fresh water. Yeah? So if you are doing the soak or the foot soak, and you see a worm come out that's moving, is there any way that it could get back in to

Kim Rogers 45:52

you? Not normally. Oh, yeah, they're like, they've been exposed, and they're just trying to go away.

Ron Beres 45:57

So don't put your face next to the

Kim Rogers 45:58

water. Yeah. Don't be drinking back here.

Lisa Beres 46:03

Do you think you could get just as good of a result from just the foot bath? Or do you think you need to do, no, you have to do an internal cleanse, like, no, no. I mean the tub versus the foot soak. Oh

Kim Rogers 46:15

yeah. I believe you can. I believe I didn't do a tub. I've never done a tub. Actually,

Lisa Beres 46:19

you haven't. No, I've only done do a tub. We got to see the video. Well, I

Kim Rogers 46:25

haven't had filtered water in a tub to do a tub, and I'm very particular about my water.

Lisa Beres 46:30

See, I probably just got myself more parasites. Great. I didn't do filtered water. That's a lot of filtered water.

Ron Beres 46:40

You lost two parasites for Gene 10. That's good.

Lisa Beres 46:44

See that one I have the video of. Well, I got 10 more.

Kim Rogers 46:47

Well, that's my mind. So that's kind of what made me test my water was. Well, how is this possible? This came out of me, and I do know that it came out of me, but I also then questioned water. And so I actually have been questioning water for a few months, and people in my comments were like, You got to get your water tested, Kim. And so I quit using our bidet at our house. We had, like a shed that we lived in our trailer, and then we have shed with a real toilet, a bidet in a Squatty Potty. Oh,

Lisa Beres 47:19

fancy, fancy. It was glamping. We

Kim Rogers 47:22

did it for years. But you have got a real toilet when you're building, if you're in a yeah, you just have to and right, using them a day when my husband kept using, did not oh, 5% now,

Ron Beres 47:42

daughter gave something okay now,

Lisa Beres 47:44

and you might like this company. Kim, if you haven't heard of it, it's called tushy. Have you heard of it? I do have a tushy. You have a tushy? Yeah? So it's a bidet that you can add to your Ron and I did HSN, and we met her there. The founder, she was doing a segment selling her tushy, her tushy product. Yeah. This conversation is going X ray, home shopping networks done gone, but it's just you guys, and you can actually buy it and attach it to your existing toilet. You don't have to go buy a whole new bidet, and it's pretty affordable. So yeah, because it's like a lot of countries, that's natural, nor French, right? Isn't the French who, right? They use that. So would you say that's a good

Kim Rogers 48:36

way to help? Oh, for comparison, I do. But I definitely we have our filter system hooked to the bidet. We just haven't had time to do it in our new apartment. Oh, I'll never use anything like that. The tap water filter. Yeah, it's tap water. It's so bad, tap water,

Lisa Beres 48:54

yeah, yeah, okay, that's a great tip. Okay,

Kim Rogers 48:58

there's a couple of different ones that work really well. Like, I like, water drop, it's three and then you just set it behind the toilet and run the core all the way through. So it really is an easy setup, and that's how we have all of our filters. Like, you come into our house, you don't touch a drop of Seattle water here. Like, okay. Like, so nice, because, like, I'm

Lisa Beres 49:20

good, baby. Yes, you're not gonna go back now that you've tasted the good life. You're like, worm free life, yeah, yeah. And guys, I say this a lot on the podcast, don't get ice cubes. Like people will spend so much money on their bottled water or their home filtration, and then they'll go out anywhere they go, Starbucks, out eat, and not even think twice about the ice cubes the airplane, you know, and that the ice cube water is way lower quality than the water that they even give you, because usually they'll at least use like a charcoal filter at like a restaurant, maybe, bare minimum, they're not filtering the ice cubes. No, it's like

Ron Beres 49:59

the scooper to the. Take out ice. It's like, yes, in your grime with your ice and putting it right in your drink. Yeah?

Lisa Beres 50:05

Rolling mold. What were you saying? Mold, mold.

Kim Rogers 50:07

Inside of the machine. There's some inside of an ice machine. There is. It's just common knowledge. Nobody's cleaning, yeah, no, yeah, cleaning it and you're using the tap water. So even a charcoal filter. We had a charcoal filter on our travel trailer. We tested that water and we tested the water from the source on our property, and both tested positive. So charcoal filter actually doesn't do it. You have to do a five micron or smaller filter, because nematodes are 40 micron in size, right? So when you're trying to filter that out. You're trying to get it to be smaller. So five micron or smaller is what you want to

Ron Beres 50:48

do. RO system or reverse, yes, but yeah, okay.

Lisa Beres 50:55

People are very naive about their water filters, like they just think,

Kim Rogers 50:58

yeah, you need to drink Mexico's water. And so that's the part that, when people are talking with me about this, that's what I say to them, because I'm like, would you go to Mexico? Because I really believe that our water is worse than Mexico's water, right? You only

Lisa Beres 51:11

do. Oh, do you really do?

Ron Beres 51:13

Wow, I do. We're just used to it, right? Is that what it is? Well, acclimated. Okay, interesting. Yeah, I want to denial quickly.

Lisa Beres 51:21

The metal detox. Wait. Let me ask. Let me ask her one real quick. Do you have a whole house filter, or do you use a filter on your bathroom sink, cool to brush your teeth at my long

Kim Rogers 51:30

home, it's a whole house filter, and I use blue onyx, it's okay, and a UV light so anything maybe get through that filtration system goes to UV light, and I've tested it multiple times a year. I'm pretty adamant I test my air for mold a couple times a year, and I test my water and so and then on. We live in Seattle in an apartment as well, so underneath my sinks, I have the water drop filtration system under the sink, and in our bathrooms, it's only under cold, just I only water anyway, so it's like, I might as well just do cold. And so it's easy to hook up. It's super simple. You can do it yourself, wow. Okay, protect yourself. If that's just even too much, then you put it on your shower, at least, right? And then use that water for the rest of your house, the shower, filter water and make sure that if you are using a five micron filter, that you do have an add back minerals, because it's literally stripping everything. So yeah, skin's gonna go dry. Your hair is gonna go dry. So what I did is I have two filters, because the water here is bad, you guys like, it's brown in like, three showers, it's disgusting. Oh, and then we brought a Seattle water. Yeah, really, we brought our filters to New York. I have a whole series on my accounts showing the different filters from Seattle and in New York and Reno, wherever I travel. I usually will do a video showing what the water looks like. It's usually Brown, so it's pretty gross. Two showers in New York. It was

Lisa Beres 53:02

black, really, yeah, just there's city water, terrible. Wow, that's insane. I know water. Water is a whole so jealous.

Ron Beres 53:12

Have water right now for the fire so we're alone.

Lisa Beres 53:16

Yeah, la doesn't have water in their fire hydrant, so they'll take so I want to

Ron Beres 53:26

ask you really quick, so why is the heavy metal detox an important part of the cleanse? Because that

Kim Rogers 53:31

was, she said that already. Oh, I'll say it again. I love talking.

Ron Beres 53:35

Remember? Well, yeah, okay. Well, I was, I guess I was thinking more is an inflammation too or no?

Kim Rogers 53:39

Yeah. So it is inflammation. It does cause a lot of inflammation, but it weights them down. It weights the toxins so parasites can hold six times their weight in toxins, heavy metals, viruses, bacteria and spores, and that's why, what happened with my eyes when I was having mold was that I was releasing the parasites, but also releasing those spores, and so Wormwood will suppress those spores. But then when I was done taking the wormwood, then it was like full active, and it's the same. So while they're releasing those, you've got to have an herb, and we use cilantro. Oh, that's our heavy metal herb in Oh, okay, recover, which is another one of our tinctures, it has shiitake in it, and shiitake is anti radiation and an anti heavy metal herb. So all of these things have like, a purpose to our bodies, right? But it's amazing, yeah, nature, nature has the answers, right? Does? Yeah, mushrooms, especially like the medicinal mushrooms we talked about at the top, it's just incredible. Like how many mushrooms and how they all have different benefits to health, right? The adaptogens and all of that. And it's really important to know how Alternatively, you can take certain things to help rewire your brain so that you don't have brain fog and you feel better, and then you're able to take care. Of yourself better. And that's really what I tried to do in the purify kit for people, is to give you a 30 days of just kind of a reset and be like, Oh my gosh, I really can find the energy to go and soak my produce and find the energy to put a filter on my shower. Because you can't do this all at once when you're chronically healing, right?

Lisa Beres 55:18

So yeah, and like you said, when your energy is low, you don't want to do anything, right? You know, nothing sounds my sister in law has MCAS. Okay, we're good cell activation syndrome, yep. And because what's that you can take our kit with, oh, you could. Okay, I'm gonna tell her about it. There was a doctor we had on. My sister in law was a caller and was talking about the weight, because there's adrenal burnout with the mast cell. And my sister in law lost all this weight, and she said she didn't change her diet at all. She lost like 25 pounds just right as she was getting her body detoxed. And the doctor told her that's because when you're stressed, your body will hold on to water, excess water. Do you think that happened in your case a little bit too? I know there was a lot of factors for you, but I

Kim Rogers 56:04

do. I definitely had adrenal fatigue. I definitely had anything. I don't know for sure if I have mast cell, but I did end up finding out that I had inflammation in my brain. And so there was a lot of things that were going in, but I found out because I did my own research. Like there wasn't guiding me on any of this, literally, right? There was no one helping my husband and me do this. It was just in the woods.

Lisa Beres 56:30

Wow, that's incredible. That led to this. And like Lyme, I mean, Lyme still not really diagnosed appropriately, right? But you cured is the Lyme caused from the parasites. Would you say, I

Kim Rogers 56:42

think I had Lyme? Like, I buy a TIG. I lived in South Dakota, like ticks loved me. I would go hike, and then we'd have to, like, check me for ticks. So, right? The fact that, like, in well, like,

Lisa Beres 56:55

Lyme is the parasite, right? Yeah, the lime is caused from a Cherokee, just

Kim Rogers 56:59

like MS, so deep into your muscle and your tissue. That's why it's so hard to detect and so hard to get out, because it has a biofilm. It literally goes in like a pork screw, and it affects your muscle, and then it Okay, basically, just has a biofilm that's glass, and it's hard to shatter it and expose them, but I know what to use because of all of this, and so I put in lung Wort lichen in metal flush, because that is an herb that actually breaks the biofilm. So that's why our Wow, so effective, because I put in a biofilm Buster herb, that one we've never all taken before, because it's from Earth in a different way than other biofilm busters. So it's not long war lichen isn't something that you would be like, Oh, okay, so the USNI is hanging and the long wart lichen is hanging with it. And you wouldn't go, oh, I should take those to, like, get rid of parasites and break biofilm. But I did. I realized that that's what we needed to do in our body. Wow. Woods. Wow,

Lisa Beres 58:01

amazing. Wow. Your whole journey into the woods was like, your, what do you call it like? Not your soul's mission. What's that word? Like, celestial prophecy? What is it called like when he goes on his, his soul's journey? Or, yeah, it was well, and if you look dark night of the soul, maybe a little

Kim Rogers 58:16

bit dark soul, for sure. And then I'm on, like, a hero's journey, right? That's it, yes. In awakening point of view, I'm a hero for me, and I just didn't want to die. Like, I'm building my dream log home, and I'm so sick, and I'm watching my husband kind of go through it, right? He sees his wife declining. And I'm like, Oh, this is not the end for me. Like, yeah, trying to do anything I can to get through this.

Ron Beres 58:42

Oh, you're a winner, and

Lisa Beres 58:44

it's a winner. I know you're a winner. And to have that hope too, I think it's really good for anyone listening who is feeling like they know something's wrong with them, right? Having that thing to look forward to that helped pull you through that, right? Like, this is my dream home, and I'm not ready to go yet. I'm not going down like this, and

Kim Rogers 59:01

I know something's wrong, yeah, like I knew something was wrong with me. There was no way around it, like I didn't look like that three years before, so to decline that rapidly, like snowboarder. I was a derby girl. I was athletic. I have two healthcare degrees. I was a 4.0 valedictorian. Wow. Really was at the top of my game, and I declined fast. Oh, my God. Oh, I knew something was wrong with me, but I just couldn't get anyone to believe me. And I'm like, I'm just gonna parasite cleans and

Lisa Beres 59:34

see what about it? Sometimes you've got to figure it out on your own. That's incredible. Okay, I know you've been so kind with your time. But I have one question. I'm good, okay, yeah, I've heard you talk about this with another podcast, the endo tumor. Oh, is that? Did I say that? Yeah, can you tell our listeners real quick what the CIA connection is with this parasite?

Kim Rogers 59:53

So in 1953 they did a study with stating that the endo tumor. Which is internal, is the same structure as parasites. And so I actually uncovered that document in 2016 and I just set it aside. I didn't really think anything about it. They unclassified it in 2011 and then I found it in 2016 and then I went on this journey. And in 2020 I started thinking about it again. And then in 2021 when I actually found out that I parasites, I found it in my phone, like, literally, I'd done a screenshot of it. And I'm, like, of that age where we screenshot everything. Thank God I Yeah, because it is a two page document stating that they are similar, if not the same thing. Ah. So,

Lisa Beres 1:00:43

and they knew that, and they hid it. You're saying they hid the information, correct,

Kim Rogers 1:00:46

right? Since 1953 actually, it was first written in 1938 Wow. And then in 53 is when they got a hold of it and translated it, because it's in a bunch of medical books, wow.

Lisa Beres 1:00:58

And is it still kind of not talked about. No, it's not talked about at all. People are getting treated for a tumor when it's really a parasite and, oh, my God,

Ron Beres 1:01:08

that's so endo tumor. What kind of specific tumor is that? Is that a standard tumor that was related by breast cancer? What is an endo tumor? Is an endo it's an internal tumor, yeah. But does it create breast cancer? I guess I'm kind of ignorant in this tumor area. No, it's

Kim Rogers 1:01:24

like different layers of the body are different names and so, like, endometriosis is no, yeah, so it's the placement of that specific tumor I see. Okay,

Lisa Beres 1:01:40

really, really, wild, really, well. Well, this was incredible. Thank you so much for your time and your generosity with all of your incredible information and your passion and for doing the work that you're doing to make the world warm, free and better and healthier. To learn more about Kim Rogers the worm queen, visit her@rogershood.com and guys, you can use code Ron, amp Lisa for 10% off your order. You can also find Kim on Tiktok at Mrs. Rogers hood, and on Instagram at Mrs. Rogers dot hood.

Ron Beres 1:02:13

And as usual, we'll have all the links in the show notes at healthy home hacks.com thanks, everyone. Stay safe, stay healthy, and please stay worm free. Yes, queen, we appreciate you.

Lisa Beres 1:02:34

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